US labour watchdog halts Apple cases after group’s lawyer picked for top job

Faith what now? Yes, it's decent product but...

It's a $3T company. It got there by extracting the maximum possible from customers, app developers, and labor. They are well known for exploiting offshore workers [1] many times over. They force customers to upgrade off working hardware. They force customers to buy multiple devices when one could do the job. There are monopoly complaints world over. Customers who are happy with this have Stockholm Syndrome.

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/china-ap...

Suppress developer wages and abuse the H1B program too.

Don't forget the suicide nets at Foxconn instead of improving working conditions

1) foxconn isn’t apple

2) the suicide rate at the foxconn factory was, even before the nets, lower per capita than the province in which it is situated. using your logic, the foxconn factory simply existing prevents deaths that would have otherwise happened if it did not.

i’m all for calling apple on their shit when warranted, but the suicide nets meme needs to die.

>> the foxconn factory simply existing prevents deaths that would have otherwise happened if it did not.

That only holds if the foxconn employees were randomly selected from the general population.

Not saying they are good, but all tall buildings in Taiwan have suicide nets like the ones mentioned at Foxconn.

The west should copy this, nets are known to prevent a lot of suicide, in general people don't immediately go and try again.

This argument can also be used in case a company uses child labor, but less of it than someone else. Or for people owning fewer than average slaves.

If Foxconn workers had either average or worse-than-average mental health (in their country), this outcome appears to be positively impacted by their employer. This seems like a reasonable assumption, unless you have some countervailing information.

Calling out unspoken assumptions can be useful, but it's not a refutation unless the assumptions are unreasonable or demonstrably wrong.

A reasonable assumption would be that Foxconn has some candidate screening that filters out applicants that may potentially be suicidal.