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LightHugger ◴[03 Apr 25 13:24 UTC] No.43569267[source]▶
> Some people have criticized that their company culture of libertarianism sometimes takes precedence over other important values including equity and inclusion.

To push for equity is to discriminate and dehumanize people, so it's certainly good that valve does not put this value ahead of anything else let alone allow them to take precedence over taking care of their customer base. They are perfectly inclusive as well, though they are not "inclusive", the kind where they discriminate against people on the basis of race to please some misguided quotas.

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michaelsshaw ◴[03 Apr 25 13:42 UTC] No.43569505[source]▶
It's crazy that, according to people like you, we've always been doing merit-based hiring and still the computer workforce is disproportionately white and male. Nothing fishy there at all.
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LightHugger ◴[04 Apr 25 05:06 UTC] No.43578529[source]▶
"People like you" So prejudiced, maybe get that looked at.

It's a complicated topic, but no we have not always been doing merit based hiring. However, merit based hiring does result in imbalanced race and gender distributions due to long term societal issues and demographic distributions at earlier stages.

Basically, there is a skewed class distribution at the source. You have to fix it at the source via equality of opportunity and making our society more equal. I'm not a conservative, i'm very far left and strongly believe in making society more equal in general. However. Trying to fix it at the destination is called racial discrimination and is dehumanizing and evil and anyone who does it should suffer prosecution.

You don't get to dehumanize and discriminate against individual people for the greater good, i will personally go out of my way to see you receive consequences if you try this and you're doing it somewhere i can see. There's a lot of us with this opinion, hopefully your stance starts getting chilled from fear of blowback.

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michaelsshaw ◴[04 Apr 25 11:07 UTC] No.43580551[source]▶
I see nothing wrong with prejudice against those working and arguing policies that, inadvertently or purposefully, keep minorities out of tech.

I have a question for you. Is there anything humanizing about the hiring process? Or is it one of the most dehumanizing things most engineers experience?

I look forward to you and your army of white men marching on me saying they're tired of racial discrimination in the workplace. I'll send you guys right over to HR, and tell them that you're tired of me hiring so many black people. I'm sure it'll go well.

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1. LightHugger ◴[04 Apr 25 12:42 UTC] No.43581410[source]▶
> I see nothing wrong with prejudice against ...

> I look forward to you and your army of white men

We know, the secret is out, you and all the other racist lunatics never saw anything wrong with prejudice. It's the same type of thinking that fought against civil rights in the 70s that just moved straight over to the hot new forms of racism and discrimination just because you think it's socially acceptable.

> Is there anything humanizing about the hiring process? Or is it one of the most dehumanizing things most engineers experience?

You are saying this in order to defend racist hiring practices. Whether or not the base hiring process sucks is not part of the discussion on whether or not we should allow racial discrimination in said hiring process.

In the end it's always individual innocent people that get hurt, not broad identity groups that you think deserve it.

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2. michaelsshaw ◴[04 Apr 25 13:40 UTC] No.43582234[source]▶
Anti-white racism is an issue in America? Since when, exactly? Can I expect you to start talking about the great replacement theory next? Are you sure you're an engineer, not an Uber driver?

How would you go about these "consequences" as you put them? Do you actually think anyone will take you seriously when you complain about not enough white people being hired? Surrounded by too many women? Sounds like a personal issue to me.

It's natural for you to feel attacked, as you're used to living under a white-supremacist system. I guarantee you would have been one of the MLK haters back in the 60s.

Also, on the prejudice thing. You actively make the decision every day to have shitty, racist opinions. Black people do not have the choice to become white, but you can become a better person. You simply choose not to. There is a huge difference, and your lack of ability to see that is telling.

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3. LightHugger ◴[05 Apr 25 05:25 UTC] No.43591018[source]▶
IBM/red hat, google, apple are all receiving extremely well evidenced anti white and asian discrimination lawsuits. When a lunatic goes on a racist tirade about how she hates hiring white people online and doesn't want to work with them she's not fired from her job at EA, these instances of public unfairness stack up and have become evidence of an ongoing systemic issue over the past 10 years.

Discriminating against people on the basis of race or gender is unacceptable, that's the bottom line, going "do you think anyone will actually take you seriously" and accusing me of being an uber driver (?) is the theme type of language i'm talking about. Segregationists in the 60s and 70s constantly used this exact style of derision and appeal to marketability, spend some time just reading the writings of segregationists at the time and you will see yourself. Sorry but there's a simple objective truth here and you're on the wrong side of it, trying to call me racist while you're defending racist practices is just pointless, it looks like a fish floundering.

And it's actually really amazing how your post boils down to 'You're white so you deserve it, nobody will take whites seriously!' despite you not even knowing my race!