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How Big Is VMS?

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jamesy0ung ◴[] No.43575439[source]
Is there any reason to use VMS today other than for existing applications that cannot be migrated? I've heard its reliability is legendary, but I've never tried it myself. The 1 year licensed VM seems excessively annoying. Is it just old and esoteric, or does it still have practical use? At least with Linux, multiple vendors release and support distros and it is mainstream, whereas with VMS, you'd be stuck with VSI.
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davesmylie ◴[] No.43575547[source]
I was actually surprised to see that there's been a release in the last 12 months - I had thought it was dead.

I used it extensively in the late 90's early 00's and really liked it. As a newb sysadmin at the time, the built-in versioning on the fs saved me from more than one self-inflicted fsck up.

I can't imagine there would be any green-field deployments in the last 10 years or so - I'm guessing it's just supporting legacy environments.

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rbanffy ◴[] No.43575581[source]
MCP and MVS (now called z/OS) are all still supported. Not sure whether MCP still receives updates though.
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quesomaster9000 ◴[] No.43577278[source]
Right, but z/OS is part of a larger longer-running hardware strategy that, with virtualization, serves the needs of mixed-OS workloads and multi-decade tenures overseeing 24/7 systems.

The corpse of OpenVMS on the other hand is being reanimated and tinkered with, presumably paid for by whatever remaining support contracts exist, and also presumably to keep the core engineers occupied with inevitably fruitless busywork while occasionally performing the contractually required on-call technomancy on the few remaining Alpha systems.

VMS is dead... and buried, deep.

It's a shame it can't be open-sourced, just like Netware won't be open-sourced, and probably has less chance of being used for new projects than RiscOS or AmigaOS.

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1. lproven ◴[] No.43580397[source]
I disagree.

It's in active development. They're putting out new versions and selling licenses.

There are much deader OSes out there than VMS, such as Netware.

I suspect that there are more fresh deployments than there are of Xinuos's catalogue: OpenServer 5, 6, and UnixWare 7.

https://www.xinuos.com/products/

Last updated 2018...

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2. bigbuppo ◴[] No.43588370[source]
A few years ago I actually purchased a Netware license, right at the start of Covid. It was an ordeal, and not because of Covid. Multiple retailers and distributors stopped selling Netware/Attachmate/Micro Focus products because of that purchase. Micro Focus was completely uninterested in handling Netware sales in any way, shape, or form, except to existing customers with big maintenance contracts.

I can also speak from personal experience that it was just that side of Micro Focus that was uninterested in making any sales. The AMC (cobol compilers) division was great and I'm happy they ended up at Rocket after the OpenText merger.