←back to thread

421 points briankelly | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0.001s | source
Show context
necovek ◴[] No.43575664[source]
The premise might possibly be true, but as an actually seasoned Python developer, I've taken a look at one file: https://github.com/dx-tooling/platform-problem-monitoring-co...

All of it smells of a (lousy) junior software engineer: from configuring root logger at the top, module level (which relies on module import caching not to be reapplied), over not using a stdlib config file parser and building one themselves, to a raciness in load_json where it's checked for file existence with an if and then carrying on as if the file is certainly there...

In a nutshell, if the rest of it is like this, it simply sucks.

replies(23): >>43575714 #>>43575764 #>>43575953 #>>43576545 #>>43576732 #>>43576977 #>>43577008 #>>43577017 #>>43577193 #>>43577214 #>>43577226 #>>43577314 #>>43577850 #>>43578934 #>>43578952 #>>43578973 #>>43579760 #>>43581498 #>>43582065 #>>43583922 #>>43585046 #>>43585094 #>>43587376 #
milicat ◴[] No.43575953[source]
The more I browse through this, the more I agree. I feel like one could delete almost all comments from that project without losing any information – which means, at least the variable naming is (probably?) sensible. Then again, I don't know the application domain.

Also…

  def _save_current_date_time(current_date_time_file: str, current_date_time: str) -> None:
    with Path(current_date_time_file).open("w") as f:
      f.write(current_date_time)
there is a lot of obviously useful abstraction being missed, wasting lines of code that will all need to be maintained.

The scary thing is: I have seen professional human developers write worse code.

replies(5): >>43576009 #>>43576011 #>>43576425 #>>43579037 #>>43579215 #
Aurornis ◴[] No.43576425[source]
> I feel like one could delete almost all comments from that project without losing any information

I far from a heavy LLM coder but I’ve noticed a massive excess of unnecessary comments in most output. I’m always deleting the obvious ones.

But then I started noticing that the comments seem to help the LLM navigate additional code changes. It’s like a big trail of breadcrumbs for the LLM to parse.

I wouldn’t be surprised if vibe coders get trained to leave the excess comments in place.

replies(4): >>43577118 #>>43578911 #>>43579671 #>>43579997 #
1. lolinder ◴[] No.43577118[source]
It doesn't hurt that the model vendors get paid by the token, so there's zero incentive to correct this pattern at the model layer.
replies(1): >>43578376 #
2. thesnide ◴[] No.43578376[source]
or the model get trained from teaching code which naturally contains lots of comments.

the dev is just lazy to not include them anymore, wheres the model doesn't really need to be lazy, as paid by the token