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breadwinner ◴[] No.43576119[source]
Microsoft got its start by Bill Gates doing some dumpster diving. Back then software wasn't seen as valuable thing, only hardware was. Source code wasn't something to be protected, so printouts of code would be thrown in trash. And that's where Bill Gates found the source code for Basic interpreter, which he ported and it became the first Microsoft product.

https://americanhistory.si.edu/comphist/gates.htm

https://paulallen.com/Futurist/Microsoft.aspx

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zabzonk ◴[] No.43576254[source]
Gates and Allen wrote and copyrighted the first Microsoft Basic, and the Dec10 8080 emulator needed to run it (I've written one of these - a bit later as it happens).

Allen wrote a loader (in machine code) for it on an aircraft flying down to sell it to Altair.

What ever you might say about them, they were not dim.

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breadwinner ◴[] No.43576354[source]
They were not dim, but Microsoft copied a lot, and didn't innovate. This aspect of Microsoft hasn't changed.

In the 1990s, during the competition between Microsoft and Sun Microsystems, Sun's CEO, Scott McNealy, compared Bill Gates to Ginger Rogers. This analogy suggested that, like Rogers, who danced everything Fred Astaire did but backward and in high heels, Gates was adept at following and adapting competitors' innovations. This comparison was part of Sun's broader critique of Microsoft's business practices at the time.

"It has been noted that everything Astaire did, Rogers was able to do -- backwards and in high heels. That's high praise for the nimble Ms. Rogers. But for a would-be visionary, following someone else's lead -- no matter how skillfully -- simply doesn't cut it."

https://web.archive.org/web/19991013082222/www.sun.com/dot-c...

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zabzonk ◴[] No.43576385[source]
Yes, well Scott McNealy will never be my idea of a brilliant man. Or Sun of a particularly good company - where are they now?

I remember one investment bank I worked for, starting:

IT tech: Would you like a Sun workstation?

Me: Nope, I would like a top of range Windows PC, with two or more screens.

IT tech: Yeah, OK, all the traders say that too. We're throwing those Suns in the dumpster.

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1. vlovich123 ◴[] No.43576507[source]
The spiritual successor for Sun machines is Oxide (lots of ex-Sun folks). And Sun got acquired by Oracle so it’s still technically around on the software side via virtual box and Java.
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2. markus_zhang ◴[] No.43576743[source]
I love Oxide's podcast. I checked its career page a few times but they are only hiring for field sales.
3. snovymgodym ◴[] No.43576927[source]
That's the point though.

What's left of Sun is basically a startup founded by a few ex-employees, some open-source software, and the rest of their IP being milked by Larry Ellison.

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4. zabzonk ◴[] No.43579735[source]
Neither SunOS or Solaris were open source, or based on open source.
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5. snovymgodym ◴[] No.43585142{3}[source]
I'm not talking about SunOS or Solaris. I'm talking about Java, dtrace, OpenZFS, and a various other random bits of Sun legacy still floating around in modern open-source systems.
6. mmooss ◴[] No.43588250{3}[source]
Wasn't SunOS essentially a flavor or distro of Unix?