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An image of an archeologist adventurer who wears a hat and uses a bullwhip

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CamperBob2 ◴[03 Apr 25 19:36 UTC] No.43574347[source]▶
And? What's the model supposed to do? It's just doing what many human artists would do, if they're not explicitly being paid to create new IP.

If infringement is happening, it arguably doesn't happen when an infringing work product is generated (or regurgitated, or whatever you want to call it.) Much less when the model is trained. It's when the output is used commercially -- by a human -- that the liability should rightfully attach.

And it should attach to the human, not the tool.

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Carrok ◴[03 Apr 25 19:49 UTC] No.43574501[source]▶
> It's just doing what many human artists would do

I really don't think so. If I paid a human artist to make the prompt in the title, and I didn't explicitly say "Indiana Jones" I would think it should be fairly obvious to the human artist that I do _not_ want Indiana Jones. If they gave me back a picture of, clearly, Indiana Jones, I would ask them why they didn't create something original.

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derektank ◴[03 Apr 25 19:57 UTC] No.43574610[source]▶
I actually don't think it would be obvious. By not explicitly saying Indiana Jones when so obviously describing Indiana Jones, there is an implication present. But I think many human artists would probably ask you, "Wait, so Indiana Jones, or are you looking for something different," before immediately diving in.
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1. smackeyacky ◴[03 Apr 25 20:40 UTC] No.43575104[source]▶
This seems pretty easy to test - can we just change the prompt to specifically exclude Indiana Jones?
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2. derektank ◴[04 Apr 25 19:51 UTC] No.43586976[source]▶
Late reply but I did test this and I think the results show at least some originality when explicitly directed to not copy existing characters such as Indiana Jones[1] and the Predator[2]. Some elements of the original characters creep in, the archaeologist is wearing a fedora and the distinctly more skeletal bounty hunter appears to have a few dreads despite otherwise being bald, but they are distinct.

[1] https://sora.com/g/gen_01jr152s6seqct2qzgd1dz0qh2

[2] https://sora.com/g/gen_01jr14t6v3fzk8tx00aswwt4kx