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CamperBob2 ◴[] No.43574347[source]
And? What's the model supposed to do? It's just doing what many human artists would do, if they're not explicitly being paid to create new IP.

If infringement is happening, it arguably doesn't happen when an infringing work product is generated (or regurgitated, or whatever you want to call it.) Much less when the model is trained. It's when the output is used commercially -- by a human -- that the liability should rightfully attach.

And it should attach to the human, not the tool.

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1. shermantanktop ◴[] No.43574545[source]
I agree. But massive changes in scale or leverage can undermine this type of principled stand.

One death is a murder; 100k deaths is a war or a pandemic. One piece of chewing gum on the ground will get you a caning in Singapore; when everyone does it, that's NYC.

Up until now, one had to have some level of graphical or artistic skills to do this, but not anymore. Again, I agree that it attaches to the human...but we now have many more humans to attach it to.

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2. eagleislandsong ◴[] No.43579434[source]
> One piece of chewing gum on the ground will get you a caning in Singapore

This is not true, by the way. You will be fined for littering; or, if you are a repeat offender, be sentenced to cleaning public areas while wearing an offensively bright-coloured uniform (so that everyone can see that you are being punished). Source: https://www.nea.gov.sg/media/news/news/index/nea-increases-v...

But no, you won't be caned for littering. Caning is reserved for more serious offences like vandalism, or much worse crimes like rape and murder.

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3. shermantanktop ◴[] No.43581054[source]
I admit, that was hyperbole based on a hazy recollection of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Michael_Fay.

FWIW I’ve been to Singapore and had a great time, but I was careful to follow the many rules and signs. I especially liked the sign on the bus forbidding the opening of a durian fruit.