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gregoryl ◴[] No.43562178[source]
Huh.

>> There are no layoffs plans at Automattic, in fact we're hiring fairly aggressively and have done a number of acquisitions since this whole thing started, and have several more in the pipeline.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Wordpress/comments/1hxnh73/automatt...

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pityJuke ◴[] No.43562817[source]
How infuriating for anyone recently hired caught in this trap.

It seems to me the obvious, from both a business & human perspective, is to stop hiring at first signs of trouble, before layoffs. To do so otherwise is cruel.

I doubt Matt had zero idea about this possibility two months ago.

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paradox460 ◴[] No.43563150[source]
This will continue until there are actual consequences for those responsible.

I'm of the mindset that any time a company does layoffs, they should start from the top And work down.

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alvah ◴[] No.43563451[source]
>I'm of the mindset that any time a company does layoffs, they should start from the top And work down.

Oh, to be young and idealistic again! So in your world, the people running the business should fire themselves first?

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InsideOutSanta ◴[] No.43567686[source]
If they have to fire people, they're running it poorly, so yes?
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alvah ◴[] No.43568477[source]
If you've spent any time in business at all, you know it's always the tea lady who gets fired first and the managers last. Many commenters here seem to live in some kind of fantasy world.
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InsideOutSanta ◴[] No.43569820[source]
>the people running the business should fire themselves first?

You were questioning whether they should, not whether they will. That's what people are responding to. They understand perfectly well who will get fired first.

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alvah ◴[] No.43570315[source]
I was questioning the idealism actually. There’s not much to be achieved by wishing the world was a certain way, it’s generally more useful to deal with the world as it is.
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1. InsideOutSanta ◴[] No.43571627[source]
What idealism? The person you responded to said they didn't expect things to change unless there were real consequences. Not expecting things to change is the opposite of idealism.

But even if they were idealistic, arguing with people for wishing the world was better is a genuinely odd thing. If you followed your beliefs, wouldn't you understand that telling people not to wish for things is pointless? If you actually dealt with the world as it is, you would not argue with people on the Internet because changing somebody's mind, particularly in the way you are attempting to do it, is just as much wishful thinking as hoping that CEOs will fire themselves.

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2. alvah ◴[] No.43577045[source]
"I'm of the mindset that any time a company does layoffs, they should start from the top And work down"

That idealism.

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3. InsideOutSanta ◴[] No.43579393[source]
It's stating a preference. Having a preference is not idealism because idealism requires some amount of belief that the preference can be achieved.

"I believe I will be a millionaire by age 30" is idealism.

"I won't be a millionaire by age 30 unless I rob a bank, but I should" is not idealism; it's just a factual statement about one's preference for wealth.

And, again, why are you arguing with me at all? If you followed your advice, you'd understand that it is pure idealism to expect me to change my mind. As somebody once said, "There’s not much to be achieved by wishing the world was a certain way; it’s generally more useful to deal with the world as it is."

It's odd to scold people for stating their preferences, and it's even odder to scold them for something you seem to be doing yourself. If you actually believed in the things you advocate for, you would not be in this thread.