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suraci ◴[] No.43565256[source]
> But you’re also wrong if you think that China only cheated its way to global manufacturing dominance. It did cheat, copy and force technology transfers.

They Lied, They Cheated, They Stole

They stole our future from US

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1. DemocracyFTW2 ◴[] No.43568581[source]
I'm not one to defend dark patterns in, shall we say, 'creative resource acquisition', but then the West including the US is definitely not free from this particular guilt. More to the point, it is precisely the managerial class in the Free West that has been insisting for decades that wherever it's cheaper to have people work for you is where production facilities should be moved, and it's our societies who still take it as gospel that employing people is basically a burden that should be avoided as much as possible.

For the same reason and under the dictate of efficiency things like, to pick a random example, the number of repair and maintenance facilities operated by the Deutsche Bahn and Berlin public transport both have been pared down to a minimum because having more of one kind for these manager types means redundancy that you can just throw out of the window. In this case it's the people who rely on public transport who have to pay the price (in terms of less reliable and BTW more expensive service) while said managerial class is enjoying the-sky-is-the-limit pay raises.

So I'm not a fan of the CCP and in particular not of their present leadership but it's not like the West hasn't be handing over their know-how and their means of production quite happily: for the managers it has so far nearly always meant better bottom lines and handsome bonuses. All the while everybody else has to believe that higher productivity will trickle down in terms of higher paychecks for everyone (which stopped to be true at some point in the past), and, as for China, the unfounded hope that somehow democracy will travel back to China in those half-empty cargo ships that are headed for Shanghai.