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mfro ◴[] No.43558049[source]
Russ Cox is an absolute legend for committing to this joke.
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pbohun ◴[] No.43558993[source]
Someone needs to convince Russ that it would be hilarious to have a full featured web browser in Plan 9.
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MisterTea ◴[] No.43559688[source]
On 9 front there's vmx which is hardware virtualization. You can boot a Linux kernel with an nfs root from the local machine and use headless vnc to run a browser in a vnc client window.

I'd also like to point out that most users of Plan 9 dislike web technology because it's a giant nightmare of code. No one human can even begin to comprehend the code base of Chrome, let alone Firefox - programs that are as big, if not bigger than the kernels they run on. That is an absurd state to be in - your runtime requires a billion dollar company to maintain. Even open source Firefox needs millions in funding.

Whereas a single human can grasp plan 9 code from the kernel to user space. That's the runtime I want, something I can understand. The process is the container on plan 9 so you have everything you need to build distributed apps without a web browser. It's human scale distributed computing. I'd like a future without the "modern" corporate scale web.

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pbohun ◴[] No.43560006[source]
Oh yes I absolutely agree. I would definitely like to completely replace the web. It's just that in order to (currently) do my banking, pay my bills, book airline tickets, order from Amazon, etc. I must use a browser. If I could escape all that I would run Plan 9 exclusively without another OS or hacks to access a browser from another OS/virtual machine.
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MisterTea ◴[] No.43560100[source]
Totally get it. Vmx on 9front with a Linux or BSD VM is the way to go if you want to try to go 100% 9. If you like you can experiment with this on a used laptop with supported hardware, thinkpad best. It's not lightning fast at the moment (patches welcome) but it works well enough.
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facile3232 ◴[] No.43560832[source]
> If you like you can experiment with this on a used laptop with supported hardware, thinkpad best.

I would avoid laptops altogether, honestly. Not a great fit.

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1. MisterTea ◴[] No.43562550[source]
That is the opposite of good advice. http://fqa.9front.org/fqa3.html#3.1
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2. facile3232 ◴[] No.43563230[source]
I suppose it depends on what you want from 9front. If you want a terminal with decent power management you should just buy a mac.