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chatmasta ◴[] No.43560812[source]
The CIA director - excessively biased as he may be - testified last week that Signal is a CIA-approved application that was preloaded onto the device he was issued on his first day. He said this practice extends back to at least the Biden Administration.

Given this, and assuming it’s true, I wonder to what degree a controversy can be predicated on usage of an approved application on an approved Government device. I’m sure there is plenty to nitpick around the edges (“classified vs. top secret,” “managed device vs. personal device,” “expiring messages,” etc.), but the fundamental transgression cannot be “using Signal.”

More importantly, I just don’t think people care — beyond pearl-clutching, tribal narratives and palace intrigue — about the safety of “classified data.” And the sad part is that it’s obfuscating the real story, which is the federal government’s seemingly indiscriminate bombing of Yemeni residences in an attempt to execute a mildly infamous terrorist. It’s the banal tone with which the government officials discuss it – like it’s a new product launch or a weekly check-in meeting – that we should find disturbing. Nobody cares about the communication medium; if anything, we should wish for _more_ transparency and visibility into discussions like this…

(Also, it’s quite an endorsement of Signal.)

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afavour ◴[] No.43560988[source]
I agree that a lot of people don't care. But the government installs secure rooms (SCIFs) in various locations for the safe discussion of classified material:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/scif-inside-high-security-rooms-2...

Just because Signal comes preinstalled on devices doesn't automatically mean it's intended for discussion of classified material.

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mdhb ◴[] No.43561608[source]
Signal does not come preinstalled on devices for them. He lied about that.
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lunarlull ◴[] No.43562128[source]
Can you cite something to corroborate that claim?
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1. djeastm ◴[] No.43562254[source]
I'd have liked to see the CIA Director cite something to corroborate HIS claim.

The Biden Administration strongly denies his claim.

>Former Biden officials, though, said that Signal was never permitted on their government phones.

“We were not allowed to have any messaging apps on our work phones,” said one former top national security official on the condition of anonymity. “And under no circumstances were unclassified messaging apps allowed to be used for transmission of classified material. This is misdirection at its worst.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-war-plans-signal-biden_...