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Glubux's Powerwall (2016)

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ianferrel ◴[] No.43549073[source]
>the solution came with rearranging and adjusting the cells to ensure the packs worked more efficiently.

>Glubux even began disassembling entire laptop batteries, removing individual cells and organizing them into custom racks. This task, which likely required a great deal of manual labor and technical knowledge, was key to making the system work effectively and sustainably.

This kind of thing is cool as a passion project, but it really just highlights how efficient the modern supply chain is. If you have the skills of a professional electrician, you too can spend hundreds of hours building a home battery system you could just buy for $20k, but is less reliable.

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pbasista ◴[] No.43551134[source]
> spend hundreds of hours building a home battery system

That is, in my opinion, the worst feature of this entire project. It is cool and nice and fun. But it takes a lot of time to research, acquire skills, get tools and build.

> you could just buy for $20k

I agree with a broader point but that particular price is extremely high and far from reality.

A reasonably good 18650 cell has a capacity of ~12 Wh (~3300 mAh * ~3.7 V = ~12.2 Wh). The battery mentioned in the article consists of "more than 1000" such cells. Let us assume 1200 cells. That would mean it has a capacity of ~14.4 kWh (1200 * 12).

It is possible to get a pre-assembled steel battery case on heavy-duty wheels for 16 LiFePo cells, with a modern BMS with Bluetooth and wired communication options, a touchscreen display, a circuit breaker and nice terminals for ~ $500. And it is also possible to get 16 high quality LiFePo cells with a capacity of ~300 Ah each, like EVE MB31, for significantly less than $100 each. This means that for less than ~$2000, it is possible to get all components required to assemble a fully working ~15 kWh LiFePo battery.

- That assembly would take a few hours rather than weeks.

- It will have new cells rather than used ones.

- It will be safer to use than a battery with Li-Ion cells.

- It will likely take much less space.

- It will be easy to expand.

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fragmede ◴[] No.43551200[source]
> - It will have new cells rather than used ones.

This is not a feature. Our Earth is a limited resource, and being able to reuse batteries instead of discarding them to the trash is a desirable property.

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1. pbasista ◴[] No.43557768[source]
> Our Earth is a limited resource

Of course. No one disputes that. I was just trying to point out that you can get better cells for less money.

> being able to reuse batteries instead of discarding them to the trash is a desirable property

I fully agree. No one is trying to suggest that we should discard used batteries into trash.