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Why F#?

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438 points bozhidar | 2 comments | 01 Apr 25 12:34 UTC | HN request time: 0.398s | source
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darksaints ◴[01 Apr 25 18:08 UTC] No.43549778[source]▶
I'm completely convinced that F# (along with Scala, Haskell, and OCaml) adoption has stalled due to having ridiculously bad build systems. More significantly, they are being passed up in favor of Rust, which is a great language but nonetheless a bad fit for a lot of problem domains, simply because Rust has a superior build system. Hell, 80% of the reason I choose Rust over C++ for embedded work is because of the build system.

It baffles me that there are languages with non-profit foundations and are financially backed by multiple corporations which still have bad build systems. It is the most important investment you can make into a programming language.

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throwaway2037 ◴[02 Apr 25 09:07 UTC] No.43554888[source]▶

    > I'm completely convinced that F# (along with Scala, Haskell, and OCaml) adoption has stalled due to having ridiculously bad build systems.
Scala? I am not trolling here: Are you joking? Scala is part of the Java ecosystem. Sure, Maven gets lots of hate on HN, but it is very mature and has excellent integration with IDEs and CI/CD systems (TeamCity, Jenkins, etc.). In the last 10 years, many Java developers have moved to Gradle, which has equally good integration.

    > Hell, 80% of the reason I choose Rust over C++ for embedded work is because of the build system.
What is wrong with CMake for C++?
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1. oblio ◴[02 Apr 25 09:33 UTC] No.43555001[source]▶
How long are Scala compilation times for a Hello World CLI, a Hello World basic webapp and for a reasonably sized production size code base?

My guess is that it's much longer than for the equivalent Java apps.

> What is wrong with CMake for C++?

It doesn't manage dependencies.

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2. oriolid ◴[02 Apr 25 18:35 UTC] No.43559879[source]▶
CMake has fetch_content, and CPM is a package manager built on top of it. They are not great.