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ljoshua ◴[] No.43534919[source]
The challenge till this is widely supported (caniuse.com currently pegs it at 46% globally [1]) will be using this as a progressive enhancement that does not provide a worse or unusable experience for users with browsers not supporting it yet.

In other words, don’t include critical information or functionality in the new styling that isn’t available in the underlying plain select element! But such is always a good practice anyway.

Very nice to see this taking shape though! Should be a huge improvement over the div monster that custom select box replacements often are. :)

[1] https://caniuse.com/mdn-css_properties_appearance_base-selec...

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ddoolin ◴[] No.43535566[source]
I agree that this is a huge improvement, but it's also over a decade late IMO. This should've been accomplished well before now, especially given that the issue has been there since the beginning.
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true_religion ◴[] No.43535690[source]
I somehow feel Safari drags its feet on basic things platform improvements because they want to focus on iOS apps instead.
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alwillis ◴[] No.43542031[source]
The narrative Safari is behind and Apple doesn’t care about the web is so tired…

This 8,000+ word article on Safari 18.4 (released today, BTW) doesn’t read like an organization that doesn’t care about the web [1].

[1]: https://webkit.org/blog/16574/webkit-features-in-safari-18-4...

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1. true_religion ◴[] No.43544350[source]
The pace of improvement in the web is slow.

I don’t want to debate if a mega corp cares or not, but compared to how UI frameworks were in the 90s, the developer experience is anemic.

I don’t know if HTML, CSS and JavaScript are the best path forward. Maybe they are doing exactly what their spec set out to do.

But we need something better that doesn’t leash one to an ecosystem that takes 30% of your revenue.