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1. 6Az4Mj4D ◴[] No.43542309[source]
What is the best way to learn Guitar as a total noob? Can this app help
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2. card_zero ◴[] No.43542393[source]
What worked for me (when I was a kid):

1. Get a very cheap guitar with nylon strings

2. Tune it to a major chord

3. Learn to barre, that is, hold down all the strings with one finger.

4. Play twelve-bar blues, just the chords, until sick.

6. When unable to bear any more, look for ways to change it up.

Edit: Look, here's the reasoning. First, the cheap guitar is not intimidating. The strings are soft. The tension is low. It isn't heavy, you can pick it up easily. It isn't valuable, so you can throw it down in disgust. Second, by playing something completely braindead, you get lots of basics sorted out about ergonomics and how hard to press the strings and how to strum and general confidence. Thirdly, because you're playing an actual tune right from the start, it's rewarding, and when the reward wears off you already have a base to work from which can be improved in small ways to seek further reward.

Incremental ways, in fact, which is a possible alternative to the word "deliberate".

3. naiquevin ◴[] No.43542403[source]
Total noob as in yet to buy your first guitar? I’d highly recommend taking offline lessons from a local guitar teacher, at least for a few months. Some things are difficult to unlearn and relearn later on. This app can be used to practice the lessons the teacher would give you.
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4. dboreham ◴[] No.43542807[source]
YouTube.
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5. j4coh ◴[] No.43543316[source]
I’m not sure why, but so many guitarists I’ve met who learned from YouTube are bad. I’m not sure why, maybe they are replacing watching with practice? No custom feedback from real musicians who hear you play? YouTubers are motivated to overcomplicate things so you keep watching more videos? I’m not sure.

It may also be the context, I play original, improvisational music with people/in front of an audience and YouTube may be particularly bad at preparing people for this.

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6. andelink ◴[] No.43543593{3}[source]
Is anything really, _truly_ learnable from YouTube? It's the ultimate "feel productive" placebo out there.

I'm ready to be downvoted.

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7. dragandj ◴[] No.43544219[source]
justinguitar.com

Completely FREE, while also being super detailed and comprehensive!

8. dragandj ◴[] No.43544265{3}[source]
To be honest, most guitarists out there, except for the small percentage of top professional performers are bad, regardless of how they've learned.
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9. j4coh ◴[] No.43544274{4}[source]
I agree with you and upvoted, but saying things like being ready for downvotes is the surest way to get them if only for commenting on downvotes. :)
10. j4coh ◴[] No.43544310{4}[source]
That’s true to an extent, though I think there are good local players in most every town, but then using this definition I mean the people who learned on YouTube are exceptionally bad.
11. marliechiller ◴[] No.43544335{4}[source]
How do you mean? How does youtubing a lecture differ from sitting in the lecture hall itself for example? I'd argue both arent great learning experiences, but lectures seem to be viable enough to make up the bulk of contact time at university
12. belter ◴[] No.43544407{4}[source]
That is also the secret of most self-paced online platforms like Udemy, Pluralsight and many others.The metrics they don't like to share. Most users never watch videos until the end, they buy courses but never start them or complete less than 4% to 10% of the course.

You can see sometimes course authors acknowledging these metrics. Companies training departments just wash their hands and say, we have these thousands of courses made available for our employees... :-)

13. Jataman606 ◴[] No.43544602[source]
Very good online resource (and free!) is JustinGuitar guitar course[1]. It begins from absolute nothing, no prior knowledge required. And it works for both acoustic and electric guitars. Also Justin is great, understanding and aproachable teacher (even though course is online). Only downside is you will need a lot of self discipline to go through it, but it definetly worked for me.

[1] https://www.justinguitar.com/

14. balfirevic ◴[] No.43546291{3}[source]
> No custom feedback from real musicians who hear you play?

Of course people who learn at home on their own will, on average, be worse than people going out and playing with other musicians. That would likely be even more true if they bought a VHS tape with lessons, or book with a CD.

15. bluGill ◴[] No.43546487[source]
If the place where you buy your guitar doesn't have lessons then buy your guitar elsewhere! There are music stores all over and nearly all of them have guitar teachers on staff - often the owner teaches guitar himself. If you want to play something weird (harp?) you might be stuck with online only lessons buying something without playing it from the internet. However most instruments have a local music shop and you should buy from them if possible. Note that guitar the patterns seems to be lessons are in the store you buy from. Piano you are generally better off with an unrelated teacher, and violin seems to be always unrelated private lessons - all are okay.

I would consider a teacher important enough that I would borrow/rent an instrument to try out teachers and only after you find a teacher you like buy. It is typically better to play an instrument you have never heard of before taught by a teacher you "click" with than buy the instrument you think you want but not find a good teacher.

That said, online lessons are great supplements to your teacher. And if you are broke (between jobs) often cheap. Sometimes online lessons can teach you things that your local teacher cannot (as opposed to will not because you are not ready). However the local teacher will also correct things that you will lie to yourself about.

16. mattgreenrocks ◴[] No.43546503[source]
Finding a great teacher helps the most. I self-taught mostly and had a teacher for the first ten years. Learned some not-great habits with both right and left hand that took me some time to unlearn.

Find a teacher that can play the stuff you want to eventually play. Then take some lessons and assess whether you enjoy the process of working with them. Learning scales and doing exercises to get better will feel like a grind no matter what. A good teacher will give you enough variety to stimulate growth and make you have an appetite for the process of improvement.

Edit: meant to mention that buying a used guitar is a great way to save money, too. You can buy from Guitar Center's used section and have a 45 day return period. If you live near a store, you can just take it back there, as well. If you're not sure how to assess the instrument, you can buy something from there, take it to a guitar tech and have them check it out/set it up to make sure it's ok.

17. bluGill ◴[] No.43546643{4}[source]
Yes, but it is very very hard to find the personal discipline needed to do so. If you watch mindlessly you will learn very little. If you watch, then do the exercises/practice (depending on the topic different things are needed) you can learn a lot. Almost nobody does, but youtube and classroom lectures that are known to work are very similar - the difference is classrooms have various ways to get people to do the other homework.