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jparishy ◴[] No.43536564[source]
I think it's quite cool (disclaimer: I am indeed a dirty Yankees fan)

Hitting is really hard. If you feel up to it, and can find a public batting cage near you that has a fast pitch machine (usually maxes out 75-85mph which is 20+ mph less than your typical MLB fastball), give it a shot. When you hit the ball away from the sweet spot, especially on the parts closer to your hands, it really freaking hurts and throws off subsequent swings.

If the few players who are using this bat tend to hit that spot naturally, it makes a lot of sense to modify the bat to accommodate it, within the rules like they've done here. Hitting is super, super difficult especially today with how far we're pushing pitchers. Love seeing them try to innovate.

Plus, reminder, most of the team isn't using it. Judge clobbered the ball that day with his normal bat. Brewer's pitching is injured, and the starter that day was a Yankee last year and the team is intimately familiar with his game.

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scoofy ◴[] No.43540397[source]
I play golf. I write about golf. I genuinely love golf. Over the last 50 years, we have slowly broken the game of golf by allowing incremental technological advancements -- just like this -- that make it easier to do something that is hard, that is making it easier to hit the sweet spot.

I am sending a grave warning to baseball fans here from the future that you will arrive at by following this road.

Golf used to be a finesse game with moments of power. Now everyone is swinging out of their shoes on every shot, and the strategy of the game has reached Nash equilibrium where you basically want to hit the ball as hard as you can at every opportunity, despite any strategic element on the course.

Professional baseball is always what I point to when I talk about what we've lost. You don't need the most optimized equipment to enjoy the game, in fact, ultimately, you don't even want it. Just use simply, standardized equipment, accept the limitations of that equipment, and enjoy a simple game, where strategy can be used to overcome the limitations of equipment. The best thing that the MLB ever did was reject aluminum bats.

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dcrazy ◴[] No.43540648[source]
The data show the only things that have had an impact on golf are the golf ball and speed training. And we’re rolling back the golf ball.
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scoofy ◴[] No.43540728[source]
>The data show

It's the clubs and everyone knows it but nobody wants to admit it because the club manufacturers are the money behind the game.

You give a pro a persimmon driver and 70's blades and it doesn't matter if they're hitting a modern ball or the pre-pro v's from the 90s... you can't hit it out of your shoes because you won't be able to hit the sweet spot.

Yes, the ball is a problem, but it's not the problem. The problem is exactly that we've allowed the sweet spot to become too big, which has led to the end of the finesse aspect of the game.

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1. fsckboy ◴[] No.43541134[source]
I don't know as much about golf as you, but I have the urge to object to "finesse" being used to describe being able to hit a smaller sweetspot. Thinking of tennis, I would say finesse should be used to describe being able to vary your swing, putting "english" on the ball, soft tap dink shots, etc.

pros are going to be better with any type of equipment, and they're going to be better at finesse, but doesn't a bigger sweet spot allow amateurs to play with more finesse than they could otherwise? it means more reliably being able to fade, draw, etc. rather than slice and hook, and it means more people can enjoy the game.

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2. scoofy ◴[] No.43541916[source]
By "finesse" I just mean that the sweet spot is to small to consistently hit with a full powered swing, so by doing that, you're taking a huge risk. That's the way it was in the 70's, but it's just not that way any longer. The idea is that there needs to be a tradeoff between power and accuracy.

Here is Sam Snead in his prime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjEJgC5nYXw

Here is Bryson warming up today: https://www.reddit.com/r/golf/comments/1joeiap/vijay_just_lo...

It's like absolute night and day. It used to be a combination of balance and power. Now it's just brute force. The way Bryson is playing just isn't possible with a persimmon.