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Roritharr ◴[] No.43539002[source]
What Kagi or anyone could work on, is an actually working version of YouTube Kids.

I literally Pi-Hole Blocked all of YouTube after my son started reading the Bible after a Minecraft Influencer started preaching throughout most of his videos to the point my son became a bit too much interested in the topic.

Not that I'm a rabid atheist or would deny my child such a thing, but if THAT can enter my 8yr olds brain via his short allowed time where he can browse by himself, i'm worried what else is coming his way through it.

I'd love to give him access to valuable videos between rules I describe by natural language and can test myself, but nothing like this exists.

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piokoch[dead post] ◴[] No.43539569[source]
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tombert ◴[] No.43539774[source]
There are parts of the Bible where a prostitute is mutilated, butchered, and shipped to her rapists [1], parts where a woman fantasizes about men with donkey dicks and horse cum [2], parts where a father is seduced by and impregnates his daughters [3], children being murdered for making fun of a bald guy [4], and many, many more things that I don't think would be appropriate for a small child.

It's fine if you believe this stuff, and maybe these are layered with beautiful metaphors and it's beautiful when you know the subtext, but I don't think it would be appropriate to read a lot of this to a young child. Maybe you don't agree, but I think it can hardly be surprising that people wouldn't want their kids to read it until they are at least a little older.

[1] Judges 19

[2] Ezekiel 23:20

[3] Genesis 19:30–38

[4] 2 Kings 2:23–25.

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carlosjobim ◴[] No.43540009[source]
A lot of the Bible is tales of what incredibly evil people do, not an endorsement of those actions. A lot of the tales is also sins and mistakes normal people make, because they aren't saints. You need to have a certain level of maturity to be able to read and understand the Bible and other ancient books. If you don't have that, it's like believing that the TV news is endorsing serial killers, wars, and natural disasters, because they are reporting on them. You can find the truth of human evil told repeatedly in the Bible, it's not a fairy tale, so you should forget about that perspective.

The Bible is absolutely not suitable for children, except for choice parts. Those people who thought it was a good idea to teach the Bible to small children did a great disservice to those people and to religion. It's a hard core book for adolescents and above.

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tombert ◴[] No.43540115[source]
> A lot of the Bible is tales of what incredibly evil people do, not an endorsement of those actions.

Mostly agree, though not completely. There are actions that are kind of deemed "moral" that I don't think are good, e.g. Abraham being super willing to murder his son to make God happy. Or Moses killing all the first-born children of Egypt with the Angel of Death. That's pretty evil, and Abraham and Moses are kind of the "heroes" of those stories.

I agree that there is wisdom to be found in there, and that it requires a level of maturity and literary understanding to parse that sometimes. It's a book written over the course of several hundred (thousands?) of years with hundreds of stories, it's not weird to think that there would be some good stuff in there.

> The Bible is absolutely not suitable for children, except for choice parts.

Yeah, I agree with that. The "do unto others" stuff is perfectly fine to teach to small children, and even stuff with slightly more nebulous but ultimately clever themes like the Prodigal Son are fine. I think I'd save the stuff about murdering and mutilating concubines until you're comfortable with them watching R-rated movies.

That's not a dig in itself, though. My favorite movie of all time is Ghost in the Shell (1995). It's got lots of wisdom and cleverness and to me it's nearly perfect, but if I had kids I don't think I'd let them watch it until they were 13 or 14, even though I don't think that the themes in it are harmful or endorsing bad behavior.

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thaumasiotes ◴[] No.43540435[source]
> I think I'd save the stuff about murdering and mutilating concubines until you're comfortable with them watching R-rated movies.

Really? Do you feel the same way about Bluebeard? Cinderella? This isn't a rare motif in children's stories.

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tombert ◴[] No.43540563[source]
I'm not sure I know what Bluebeard is, so I can't comment on that.

The original somewhat gory Cinderella stories? I might wait until they're a bit older.

I don't have kids, so this is all hypothetical, of course.

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1. tmtvl ◴[] No.43540753[source]
Bluebeard is a fairy tale about a lass who marries a guy called Bluebeard and he gives her the keys to his house and tells her not to go into one specific room and that room contains the bodies of his former wives.

I might be misremembering it somewhat, but I believe that's the gist.