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kens ◴[] No.43538380[source]
Author here for your Pentium questions :-)
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1. CalRobert ◴[] No.43539219[source]
Why wasn’t the Pentium’s successor the Sexium?
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2. kens ◴[] No.43539448[source]
Ha ha. Internally, the successor to the Pentium (P5) had the codename P6, but it was called the Pentium Pro externally rather than anything six-related.

Instead, Intel decided to go with an incomprehensible system of naming: Pentium Overdrive, Pentium MMX, Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium III Xeon, Pentium D, Pentium M, Pentium Extreme Edition, etc. Good luck trying to figure out the ordering of these processors.

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3. nxobject ◴[] No.43539542[source]
I imagine the same reason why we had the Macintosh II and IIx, but not the SE and SEx (instead SE/30)...
4. monocasa ◴[] No.43539823[source]
Or the Hexium.

The CPU serial number debacle of the 90s would have been even funnier with more overt mark of the beast references.

5. kragen ◴[] No.43540510[source]
E5200.
6. ssl-3 ◴[] No.43540937[source]
Intel's bad naming is still shooting them in the foot today. For a company that butters their bread by selling new products, they're doing a spectacularly bad job of letting people know what the new hotness is.

I hear things like "What do you mean it's slow? It's an i7!" or "It can't be slow -- it's a Xeon!" from too many people in the wild.

To them, the first number is the important one. What they see is that it is still an i7 and therefore they think it must be still be (relatively) fast, even if their second-gen i7-2600 is demonstrably pretty slow.

I tried once to explain how Intel's numbering system has worked to a friend. I failed pretty miserably. I even used a whiteboard. I couldn't convey what needed to be conveyed in order to explain why his computer (an i7) wasn't keeping up with the tasks he gave to it.

But I can convey the problem simply enough in this crowd, here on HNN: What's faster, a "Core i3-9100" or a "Core i7-2600"?

(At least with 286, 386, 486, and Pentium, the nomenclature was much more digestible.)

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7. userbinator ◴[] No.43541536{3}[source]
What's faster, a "Core i3-9100" or a "Core i7-2600"?

One has 4 threads, the other has 8; and the difference between 6 generations is actually not that big, especially if you start talking about overclocking, cooling, and thermal throttling.

At least with 286, 386, 486, and Pentium, the nomenclature was much more digestible

Those were all single-core, but still, you could ask "what's faster, a 486SX-16 or a 386DX-33?" (The answer may surprise you. Sorry, couldn't resist...):

https://dependency-injection.com/the-slowest-486-vs-fastest-...

8. chasil ◴[] No.43542350[source]
Bob Colwell gave an interview on the Pentium Pro, the first "out of order" Intel x86.

His observations on the Itanium make me gasp.

https://www.sigmicro.org/media/oralhistories/colwell.pdf

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38459128

'I said, wait I am sorry to derail this meeting. But how would you use a simulator if you don't have a compiler? He said, well that's true we don't have a compiler yet, so I hand assembled my simulations. I asked "How did you do thousands of line of code that way?" He said “No, I did 30 lines of code”. Flabbergasted, I said, "You're predicting the entire future of this architecture on 30 lines of hand generated code?" [chuckle], I said it just like that, I did not mean to be insulting but I was just thunderstruck. Andy Grove piped up and said "we are not here right now to reconsider the future of this effort, so let’s move on".'

Colwell is (more formally) the author of The Pentium Chronicles which I plan to read someday.

https://www.amazon.com/Pentium-Chronicles-Robert-P-Colwell/d...

9. mrheosuper ◴[] No.43543352{3}[source]
we could in theory get rid of the "ix" at the first. there is no i7 10100f cpu, only i3 10100f, so if you say "i have 10100f intel cpu", i know it's worse than 10400f cpu