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What to Do

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handfuloflight ◴[] No.43515238[source]
"Make good new things" overlooks a critical tension: that goodness itself remains contested territory. The most transformative innovations reveal that creation's power cuts both ways. The printing press spread knowledge and literacy but also enabled propaganda wars and religious conflicts. Nuclear fission powers cities with clean energy but also destroyed Hiroshima & Nagasaki and created existential risk. The internet connects billions across continents while weakening community bonds and fragmenting our shared reality. Each breakthrough that advances humanity also challenges our moral certainties.

This suggests we need a fourth principle: "Cultivate discernment about goodness." Not merely as an afterthought, but as an essential companion to creation. Such discernment acknowledges that innovation contains both medicine and poison in the same vessel—and that our capacity to create has outpaced our ability to foresee consequences. And perhaps equally important is recognizing that meaningful contribution isn't always about creating anew, but often about cultivating what already exists: preserving, interpreting, and transmitting knowledge and practices in ways that transform both the cultivator and what is cultivated.

Yet Graham's framing—"What should one do?"—contains a deeper limitation. It positions ethics as an individual pursuit in an age where our greatest challenges are fundamentally collective. "What should one do?" seems personal, but in our connected world, doesn't the answer depend increasingly on what seven billion others are doing? When more people than ever can create or cultivate, our challenge becomes coordinating this massive, parallel work toward flourishing rather than conflict and destruction.

These principles aren't merely personal guideposts but the architecture for civilization's operating system. They point toward our central challenge: how to organize creativity and cultivation at planetary scale; how to balance the brilliant chaos of individual and organizational impetus with the steady hand of collective welfare. This balance requires new forms of governance that can channel our pursuits toward shared flourishing—neither controlling too tightly nor letting things run wild. It calls for institutions that learn and adapt as quickly as the world changes. And it asks us to embrace both freedom of pursuit and responsibility to others, seeing them as two sides of the same coin in a world where what you bring forth may shape my future.

The question isn't just what should I do, but what should we become?

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1. Koshcheiushko ◴[] No.43526628[source]
This is clearly chatgpt generated.
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2. balamatom ◴[] No.43526664[source]
I don't think so. It's just in the kind of English that we are taught in order to become unable to be heard.

Even if it were GPT-generated, why do you say it as if that's a bad thing? I thought this forum was gushing about how great AI is!

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3. Koshcheiushko ◴[] No.43526728[source]
I'm on HN to read about human written original/derived thinking.

If poll is taken, I think vast majority HN user won't prefer any AI generated comment.

These comments honestly just mock readers.

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4. dang ◴[] No.43526738[source]
Generated comments aren't allowed on HN, which is a place for conversation between humans.

(Preferably involving as little repetition as possible.)

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6. abenga ◴[] No.43526894[source]
If someone can't be bothered to write something, I can't be arsed to read it. I am not here to consume strings of text, but to interact with other people.
7. balamatom ◴[] No.43528402{3}[source]
Ok. So if generated comments aren't allowed, and if repetition is discouraged, why do I keep seeing these repetitive "is this GPT" comments maybe not quite on every other post but virtually every day I read something on here?
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8. dang ◴[] No.43528466{4}[source]
Because people post repetitive things anyway.

It's not as if one can control these things just by setting rules or asking nicely! The most we can do is influence things around the edges a little.

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9. balamatom ◴[] No.43533352{5}[source]
Fair's fair. "Ok GPT" seems like a shitty dunk, is all. Real low-effort, and on people trying to think for themselves no less (who are thus providing the tastiest food for any scrapers! priorities!)
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10. balamatom ◴[] No.43533986{3}[source]
>I think vast majority HN user won't prefer any AI generated comment.

Agreed! At the same time, there's a lot of content on here about AI, including AI-based content generation.

So, if HN users don't like being subjected to AI-generated content, why would they be OK with promoting AI, including foisting AI-based content upon others? Seems unfair, not to mention self-contradictory.

>These comments honestly just mock readers.

I looked through that poster's comment history and they seem to be participating in good faith.

People are also not great at identifying AI-generated content. (There was an experiment about AI-generated graphic art on ACX not too long ago, I assume the situation with text to be no different.)

And there's a style of "normative" English which the language models "know" by default (because they learned it from human-authored content). But nothing prevents humans from still writing in that style, and indeed many people think that this is how they writing should look in order to get their post across. (My parent comment was a joke about how readers do prioritize style over substance, and are pretty bad at identifying substance they don't already have at least some familiarity with.)

So, if that comment turned out to not be GPT-generated, you've just mocked someone for trying to share their thoughts in that way which (in their opinion) would be most accessible to others. How does that help anyone?

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11. dang ◴[] No.43538698{6}[source]
> "Ok GPT" seems like a shitty dunk, is all.

I absolutely agree

12. handfuloflight ◴[] No.43542741{4}[source]
This is what I get for attempting to write in that high HN fashion. I appreciate your considerate approach, though. Thank you.

Now I only wonder what kind of depth we missed out on from this accusation taking the forefront of my post's underlying thread.

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13. balamatom ◴[] No.43544244{5}[source]
checks barometer Well, given we're about 6 levels deep, and on HN of all places... compute compute I guess we'd probably be either at the "recommendations to think in AAVE" or the "recommendations to start studying Russian" :-)))

Happy International Lying Day!