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phony-account ◴[] No.43520152[source]
This is so utterly frightening. And disturbing to see how quickly stories like this are flagged into invisibility on HN.

edit: luckily enough people vouched for the story to be rescued.

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cultofmetatron[dead post] ◴[] No.43520598[source]
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robocat ◴[] No.43521135[source]
Expect any comment using the trigger "downvoted" to be diwnvoted because comments about voting are against guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

  Please don't comment about the voting on comments.

  Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit
There's plenty of readers with showdead set to Norway and that read and interact with downvoted comments. However if comments/articles get flagged then they get memory-holed.

If you need to discuss politics, then the easiest solution is to find another social media about the article - one that desires political comments.

Please downvote this comment.

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1. areoform ◴[] No.43521587{3}[source]
I would defend this submission to dang.

I think that the suspension of due process in the home of Hacker News, the US, which was designed by its founders as a bastion of freedom from kings where people could pursue whatever their intellect desired with a guaranteed right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, is important enough to merit discussion.

I think intellectual curiosity dies when due process dies, because if people can face arbitrary, excessive and (frankly) cruel punishment for thought crimes by the state, then what else is there?

Intellectually curious minds fled in the 1930s to the US when this happened in their nook of the world. And now, we're seeing the cycle repeat in their chosen nouveau homeland.

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2. robocat ◴[] No.43601728[source]
Comments that smell of defending to moderators are by definition poor comments. The crux of HN is to choose to write politely and intelligently. Any comment that could need defending shows poor judgement.

> bastion of freedom; kings; liberty; cruel punishment; thought crimes; 1930s

These are all fine intellectually stimulating things which I believe are critical to inform ourselves and others about. HN is not stopping you from discussing them. HN is not a jail. The request is that you discuss politics elsewhere: please just use other forums that welcome political discussion. Nobody is preventing you from doing that.

Disclaimer: those are just one users opinions (my own) on how things seem to work here. I'm most definitely ignorant about what the managers of HN think. I too have a deep interest in politics and civics and I too struggle with the HN guidelines. YMMV.