> everyone knows all the alls on your phone
On Android phones. iPhone doesn’t have this privacy deficiency.
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On iOS an app developer will need to register in advance which external applications their app intends to query, and the list needs to be very short and motivated. [1]
Incidentally, “I have a friend who says...” isn’t really a good citation anywhere outside Reddit - which HN resembles more and more each day.
[1] https://www.hackingwithswift.com/example-code/system/how-to-...
Also the bots have not invaded HN, which is a truly massive distinction.
I snorted when I got to the self-important haughtiness about reddit.
Why?
- You immediately recognized what they meant.
- They weren't advancing a claim, they were indicating a basis for their interrogative, likely to avoid seeming naive when claiming it out of nowhere.
- The article we're commenting on describes the same mechanism you claim differentiates iOS. ("register in advance...which applications...intends to query, and the list needs to be very short and motivated.")
- I've worked heavily on iOS and Android since 2009. As close to a graybeard as you can get in mobile. I'm searching, reaching, grasping for any sign you've done anything other than Google and link the first article you saw, and I can't find _any_. At all. But I don't think that's wrong. You're trying. Why is it wrong for the person you asked to try too?
- There's strong signs you didn't read the article we're commenting on.
- If you had, it is unlikely you would have said iOS was differentiated, then laid out the exact same mechanism described in the article.
- There's strong signs you didn't read the article you linked.
- On iOS you can register URL schemes in a plist, these aren't "external applications you intend to query" and the list does not have to be "very short and motivated"
I get cranky too, but, I am grateful I recognize it is very reddit to cry Reddit and edit it out, or delete.
They were using this trick to detect unauthorized apps on the phone.
https://blog.verichains.io/p/technical-analysis-improper-use...
[0] - https://gist.github.com/wh1te4ever/c7909dcb5b66c13a217b49ea3...
What could possibly indicate I didn’t read the article? Of course I read it. Isn’t your assumption of my bad faith also explicitly against HN’s guidelines?
> On iOS you can register URL schemes in a plist, these aren't "external applications you intend to query" and the list does not have to be "very short and motivated"
I’m also an iOS developer- and yes it does.
What I laid out, namely, that you described iOS the same as the article, while simultaneously claiming iOS differs significantly.
> On iOS you can register URL schemes in a plist, these aren't "external applications you intend to query" and the list does not have to be "very short and motivated"
> I’m also an iOS developer- and yes it does.
Which part is "yes it does"?
We both can agree quite quickly that URL schemes in a plist aren't "registering apps." You can drag this out a couple turns by playing shell games first by ignoring the URL schemes difference, then by making me do the leg work to show it's trivial to find apps with dozens of apps in that list.
Either which way, I continue to be taken aback by your snarkiness towards the original post and cries of Reddit given you know you were 100% wrong on this.
You're in a really bizarre situation where too much territory was staked out and you're defending it all: you can't claim this was a remotely accurate description and you read the article about Android and iOS is different. It's already a farce, then throw in scolding about how HN is Reddit because of low quality posts...my goodness, my friend.
> Of course I read it. Isn’t your assumption of my bad faith also explicitly against HN’s guidelines?
No, because I said "There are strong signs", I didn't say "You didn't read it."
Also, why would not reading be "bad faith"?
You are extremely focused on making attacks and perceiving them in others, please take a step back and note: "But I don't think that's wrong. You're trying. Why is it wrong for the person you asked to try too?" - you shouldn't have to make up an interpretation where gently chiding you for being rude turns into invoking rules and accusing you of bad faith
A simple thought exercise for me is "Which of these two comments is more Reddit?" - I'd say the one that came with curiosity is HN, the one that bats around half truths combatively and invoking Reddit isn't.
I think this is probably true of any online community. I’d wager that an online community needs more users to grow and be sustainable, and more users inevitably means more content, and more content means less _high-quality_ content overall.