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andsoitis ◴[] No.43519910[source]
> everyone knows all the alls on your phone

On Android phones. iPhone doesn’t have this privacy deficiency.

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1. piyuv ◴[] No.43519937[source]
Right, only Apple knows, but it’s ok, they’re the good guys
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2. andrei_says_ ◴[] No.43520012[source]
Definitely not “good” but I’m still to see anything remotely resembling the complete disregard for privacy and security typical for the adtech-driven android ecosystem.

Just a different business model, not a display of moral values.

Sure, Pegasus exists but I don’t think it is commodified yet.

3. jmb99 ◴[] No.43521170[source]
Ignoring the sarcasm...

What evidence is there/can you present that Apple is making use of this information in a negative way?

How can Apple not have a list of installed apps on your phone while maintaining basic functionality (automatic updates, reinstalling apps from backup, etc)?

4. PaulRobinson ◴[] No.43522067[source]
Sort of. They have a list of apps you've bought/installed through app store, and they can figure out what you've deleted based on what your phone is pinging for update checks on.

If they went beyond that, or disclosed that knowledge, or allowed an app to get that manifest without your permission, it would destroy their brand image built around privacy, in a way that would cause long-term irreparable damage.

They decided to not comply with laws compelling them to add back doors to optional encryption on iCloud storage, rather than tarnish that image, because they know how valuable that trust is.

You can dump on Apple all you want, but compared to Google who plead with people to use their browser and phones to improve adtech surveillance they can monetize, I think they're doing OK and are a lot more trustworthy.

5. criddell ◴[] No.43524602[source]
> they're the good guys

In a relative way, they definitely are.