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timewizard ◴[] No.43517855[source]
America changed right after 2001. People have been asleep this entire time, presuming that their government would never target them, even though they've slowly been building a giant surveillance network that could only have this ultimate purpose.

Pretending this is "Trump's America" or "Obama's America" or "Bush's America" is ridiculous. They've all participated in building these walls around the country and our freedom.

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bongodongobob ◴[] No.43518352[source]
I'm guessing this is being downvoted because the crowd here is too young. Our reaction to 9/11 was horrifying to anyone with a brain at the time.
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tdeck ◴[] No.43518413[source]
"We tortured some folks."
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1. Cyph0n ◴[] No.43518562[source]
No, it was not torture, it was just “enhanced interrogation” and “extraordinary rendition”.