When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you know America's changed

I view the current political situation as a historical rhyme of the bloody wars of religion in Europe that saw Catholics and Protestants murdering each by the millions. As with the C v P wars (or Sunni vs Shia in Islam, or Hindu vs Muslim in India), taking a side is the wrong ethical stance; the right stance is to view it clearly as a brutal tribal struggle, and take steps towards a just and honest peace.

None. And that metaphor does not really apply here as neither of these groups are actively advocating for the annihilation of the other, especially in the context of the US. They may have in the past, but we're talking about the present.

The past is just as available to inform us as the present, as your reference to past nazis indicated. It's an inconvenient comparison, but it remains apt. I think most people like to believe that current events are special, but they rarely are. Just takes a little bit of historical perspective to realize.

Not yet. Just advocating taking sovereign nations by force. Abducting without due process. Raw political retribution against enemies. So yeah let’s just sit back and chill and see what happens next maybe we’ll get lucky.

I happened to read ACOUP on this subject yesterday. It discusses how fascism evolved in the past, and if trump is a fascist. It was written before Trump came to power. For me, this was a sobering read.

https://acoup.blog/2024/10/25/new-acquisitions-1933-and-the-...

I'm partial to the detached anti-culture war ideaplex myself but I've got a radically different conclusion-- I want them to kill each other. You know, like one of those brutal chess games where there's like 6 pieces on the board by turn 20 sorta bloodbath that you'd need to resurrect someone like Livy to properly describe. I think we'd have a post-WW2 style golden age with all the partisans safely entombed under six feet of earth.

The worst stance of all of course is demonstrated over and over in this thread and HN in general where you have people calling Trump the second coming of Hitler, yet are too fat and comfortable to find the courage to have their actions match their words.

So we'll be getting these types of threads about how HNers need to be carrying burner phones for the next four years -- may god grant us some Sorelian heroes before then.