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Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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268 points tech234a | 3 comments | 29 Mar 25 04:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.206s | source
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samiv ◴[29 Mar 25 07:00 UTC] No.43513408[source]▶
I'm also 100% convinced Microsoft will introduce mandatory code signing at some point and make it so that you can only ever install software from Windows Store.

They are envious of the Google and Apple walled gardens/cashcows and are now determined to turn Windows into one.

Windows is no longer a product for users, the users of Windows are the product for Microsoft to be shoved into the Azure sales funnel.

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throwaway290 ◴[29 Mar 25 07:28 UTC] No.43513544[source]▶
Should be mentioned this is way worse than Apple

Having to use an account to get apps from app store (Apple) vs. having to use an account to install and use the OS in the first place (Microsoft) = not even a a competition

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1. herbst ◴[29 Mar 25 11:05 UTC] No.43514492[source]▶
You cannot even develop or use anything that needs a compiler without siging up and logging in to apple to install dev tools.

So nah, same.

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2. throwaway290 ◴[29 Mar 25 11:52 UTC] No.43514763[source]▶
Nah. In one case no one prevents you from torrenting third party Xcode at your own risk. You can run any code you want on your device. But in the other case you can't even use the OS. Cope however you want but QED.

It's not perfect, it sucks, but it's better

3. Aaron2222 ◴[29 Mar 25 13:11 UTC] No.43515255[source]▶
The "Command Line Tools for Xcode" don't require an Apple ID to install (and provides a C/C++/Objective-C/Swift toolchain (LLVM/Clang) and things like Make and Git). Not to mention other compilers not provided by Apple that you can just download and install. And yes, while you do need an Apple ID to download Xcode from Apple, you don't need to be signed into macOS with it (you can download it from the Apple Developer site).