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Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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268 points tech234a | 5 comments | 29 Mar 25 04:13 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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samiv ◴[29 Mar 25 07:00 UTC] No.43513408[source]▶
I'm also 100% convinced Microsoft will introduce mandatory code signing at some point and make it so that you can only ever install software from Windows Store.

They are envious of the Google and Apple walled gardens/cashcows and are now determined to turn Windows into one.

Windows is no longer a product for users, the users of Windows are the product for Microsoft to be shoved into the Azure sales funnel.

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agilob ◴[29 Mar 25 07:12 UTC] No.43513481[source]▶
That's the main reason why Valve is investing in Linux and Steam Deck.
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eru ◴[29 Mar 25 08:47 UTC] No.43513877[source]▶
Apropos, running Steam on my Archlinux Desktop with Windows compatibility turned on works really, really well. Much better than what I remembered from the bad old days of trying to get stuff running in Wine.
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1. consp ◴[29 Mar 25 09:31 UTC] No.43514072[source]▶
Wine and it's alternatives have greatly profited from valve going this route and as a result all software runs better. It's a gradual improvement over time and we are past the early stages. I'm still running a gaming PC on windows but that is going to end quite soon if Microsoft keeps doing these things.
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2. erikerikson ◴[29 Mar 25 15:31 UTC] No.43516308[source]▶
Stream actually paid for contributions to Wine if I understand correctly.

I too planning to use a gaming centric distro for my next gaming PC build. The horseshit they've been pushing at me on 10 has been atrocious. The lie that 10 would be the last. Injecting pages into Chrome. Windows acts more and more like literal malware.

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3. nialv7 ◴[29 Mar 25 19:13 UTC] No.43517783[source]▶
Yes, steam contracts CodeWeavers which is the main company that supports the development of wine.
4. eru ◴[30 Mar 25 03:22 UTC] No.43521001[source]▶
> I too planning to use a gaming centric distro for my next gaming PC build.

I don't find that the distribution makes that much of a difference?

I just use Arch Linux, and install all the programs (gaming centric or otherwise) that I need when I need them. I guess I'm lucky, because the Steam Deck's distribution is based on Arch Linux, but I used it before it was cool.

I suspect the main differences between the distributions is what you get by default, and that can be a huge factor in terms of convenience?

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5. erikerikson ◴[30 Mar 25 03:54 UTC] No.43521185{3}[source]▶
Yeah and good on you for using Arch but gaming distros are designed to support dummies, meaning people like me that don't really want to build the OS from the ground up get to coast. We just want to use it.

I know a fair bit about OS internals but especially when I'm gaming I want to play rather than read and follow technical docs.

Sorry, not sorry.