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Upcoming Windows 11 builds cannot install without internet and Microsoft Account

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268 points tech234a | 3 comments | 29 Mar 25 04:13 UTC | HN request time: 0.615s | source
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soraminazuki ◴[29 Mar 25 05:47 UTC] No.43513090[source]▶
It's such an absurd lie. If Microsoft's idea of security is to force its users to authenticate online for a local account, they should never be allowed in the software industry at all. They're needlessly and dramatically increasing the attack surface of one of the most security critical software running on user devices.
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userbinator ◴[29 Mar 25 06:47 UTC] No.43513354[source]▶
It's an argument for increased security in the same way that they consider uploading the contents of your hard drive to their servers to scan for "malware" (and other undesirable-to-them content) is. Corporate authoritarianism.
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miohtama ◴[29 Mar 25 07:20 UTC] No.43513512[source]▶
The trick is that most of the users need this service. Before Windows Defender was built in you had to buy an anti virus software from sneak oil Windows security industry, and likely get somehow scammed in process.

The same companies sell anti virus for Android today.

Also most users is not all.

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1. badsectoracula ◴[29 Mar 25 07:54 UTC] No.43513645[source]▶
But this made Windows Defender an actually good and useful feature for the users.

Requiring an online account to use Windows isn't really the same thing.

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2. GoblinSlayer ◴[29 Mar 25 08:43 UTC] No.43513861[source]▶
Except that on Home edition it detects everything as a virus, so all programs have an explanation that if Defender detects it as a virus, then just ignore it.
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3. badsectoracula ◴[31 Mar 25 19:28 UTC] No.43538827[source]▶
I haven't been using Windows as my main OS for a few years now but at least when i used it with Windows 10 it didn't detect "everything as a virus". In fact i can't even remember a single time i had issues with Windows Defender.

Unless you refer to Windows SmartScreen? That is a different thing - really about how popular some program is (though Microsoft did put it under Windows Defender at some point so it can be confusing) - and isn't about the antivirus (which is what i was referring to).