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1. ungreased0675 ◴[] No.43513528[source]
Windows 11 is the reason I’ve returned to Linux after a decade away. Microsoft doesn’t seem to be concerned about killing the golden goose. I wonder if they have data on just how much hostility users are willing to put up with?
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2. atemerev ◴[] No.43513753[source]
The golden goose is now Azure. Windows is (or will be soon) a free complementary OS to make more people use Azure services.
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3. sagolikasoppor ◴[] No.43514180[source]
The only issue with that is when you switch to Linux, alternatives to Azure is much more compelling. I would never use Azure services unless I'm on Windows.
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4. atemerev ◴[] No.43514191{3}[source]
Well, I do. I still like Outlook, and it works good enough as a web app. Same for OneNote. Azure as the development platform is crazy, of course. But I also have a friend who I respect much, and who is probably a better engineer than me, who likes Azure and completely unproductive with AWS, so _maybe_ that's a matter of taste. Just like tabs and spaces. I prefer spaces, but whatever.
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5. ungreased0675 ◴[] No.43514292{3}[source]
Could you explain this a bit more? I happen to like Azure, probably because I understand it a lot better than the other cloud platforms. What’s the connection to Linux OS?
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6. herbst ◴[] No.43514552{4}[source]
I prefer managing my own hardware and find both Azure and AWS very unproductive for anything else than huge, big traffic, projects. Not sure if that has to do anything with my OS choice.
7. yoyohello13 ◴[] No.43516387{4}[source]
I use Azure every day at work and I’m honestly baffled anyone could have this opinion. The interface is slow to load, when it works at all. I’ve had my log tails just strait up crash not allowing me to debug for hours. The documentation it ok, but if you want to do anything that’s not c# it’s a fucking nightmare.

I was recently trying to integrate EasyAuth OIDC with a custom IdP and it was a terrible experience. No logs indicating why it wasn’t working. I had to dig down into the configuration xml schema to discover EasyAuth didn’t even support client_secret_basic auth method so we couldn’t use it in the end. Every product is like this. Great if you do everything MS wants you to do exactly, but if you have any requirements not blessed by Microsoft you’re SOL.

8. sys_64738 ◴[] No.43520040{4}[source]
> I still like Outlook, and it works good enough as a web app. Same for OneNote.

This I find baffling. Outlook and One Note are some of the worst applications known to man. Clunky interfaces and confusing messes to navigate.