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Waymos crash less than human drivers

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paxys ◴[] No.43487851[source]
Worth repeating the same comment I've left on every variant of this article for the last 10 years.

Being better than "average" is a laughably low bar for self-driving cars. Average drivers include people who drive while drunk and on drugs. It includes teenagers and those who otherwise have very little experience on the road. It includes people who are too old to be driving safely. It includes people who are habitually speed and are reckless. It includes cars that are mechanically faulty or otherwise cannot be driven safely. If you compile accident statistics the vast majority will fall into one of these categories.

For self driving to be widely adopted the bare minimum bar needs to be – is it better than the average sensible and experienced driver?

Otherwise if you replace all 80% of the good drivers with waymos and the remaining 20% stay behind the wheel, accident rates are going to go up not down.

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potato3732842 ◴[] No.43489477[source]
Accident statistics are not dominated by drunks or anything else.

They're dominated by normal drivers who had a momentary lapse in judgment or attention. This is why running a police state that goes hard on DUI and vehicle inspections doesn't make the roads as much safer as its proponents would leave you to believe.

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bmicraft ◴[] No.43491594[source]
You say that and yet many places have an order of magnitude less car "accidents" per population than the US currently.
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potato3732842 ◴[] No.43491906[source]
>You say that and yet many places have an order of magnitude less car "accidents" per population than the US currently.

Nice Freudian slip there.

Rich western europe has less car accidents because they, broadly speaking, don't let poor people drive and work harder to cultivate a law abiding populace.

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1. bmicraft ◴[] No.43512136[source]
I don't understand, what are you calling a Freudian slip here? I put accident in quotes because it's generally understood nowadays that the term isn't quite the correct one.

If a collision occurs because of bad road/intersection design then it wasn't all that accidental after all - it was a statistical inevitability.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision#Criticism_of...