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A_D_E_P_T ◴[] No.43497927[source]
AFAIK most computer keyboards don't have em dashes. Rather than hit ALT+0151 every time, I've always just strung along two hyphens, like: --

Absolutely proper and correct use of em dashes, en dashes, and hyphens is, to me, the most obvious tell of the LLM writer. In fact, I think that you can use it to date internet writing in general. For it seems to me that real em dashes were uncommon pre-2022.

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n2d4 ◴[] No.43497951[source]
Alt+hyphen or alt+shift+hyphen is an endash/emdash. You may not have been aware of it because it's so subtle, but many people (including myself) used emdashes long before 2022

(edit: apparently only on Mac, see reply below)

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jml7c5 ◴[] No.43497975[source]
I believe that's only on MacOS.
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dragonwriter ◴[] No.43498702[source]
I think Microsoft Office (maybe jiat Word, but definitely not Windows) has a similar default shortcut.
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harrall ◴[] No.43498812[source]
You don't need a shortcut on Word.

You just type two hyphens (--) and Word will convert it to an em dash.

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hunter2_ ◴[] No.43501306[source]
Across the Office suite:

Typing <word><hyphenminus><hyphenminus><word><space> yields an em dash.

Typing <word><space><hyphenminus><hyphenminus><space><word><space> yields an en dash.

That this has been true for some 3 or 4 decades makes me doubt all the comments that em dashes are a "tell" of LLM authorship. On the other hand, I guess when we confine this possibility to web content, I can see how people haven't used Office for web authoring lately, and whatever they do use (like web-based content management systems) don't tend to have this feature.

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1. venusenvy47 ◴[] No.43505579[source]
I can't get this to work in Powerpoint. It's funny, I clicked on this thread because I was struggling with trying to make an "emdash" in Powerpoint yesterday and couldn't find the correct search term for the "long hyphen" that I was looking for.
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2. hunter2_ ◴[] No.43507547[source]
Works fine for me on PowerPoint for Mac, oddly enough. Unrelatedly, Mac also allows easy (non-alt-code) keyboard entry: option-hyphen yields an en dash, while option-shift-hyphen yields an em dash.