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itissid ◴[] No.43494328[source]
Its just people. People are the same everywhere, and are fundamentally unpredictable systems. How large groups behave does depends to a certain extent on context: by compared to others and your socio-economic situation. How they publicly expressed their values are entirely different from their behavior. This is to the dread of incumbent governments and pollsters.

If you starve a wealthy man for 2 weeks he will be ready to cannibalize. If you create a metric upon which you place a lot of economic-value, soooner or later it will get gamed and corrupted. If you remove checks and balances humans being unpredictable will turn on each other.

One can choose to ignore this fact, but at the cost of endless grief to oneself and those around.

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bufferoverflow ◴[] No.43496176[source]
> People are the same everywhere

That is absolutely not true. People aren't the same even in adjacent neighborhoods sometimes. Some create great environments, some create hells on earth.

Source: I lived in 3 different countries + an isolated island.

But you don't even need my biased opinion on the matter. We have cultures that throw gay people off the roofs, and cultures that celebrate them.

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hnhg ◴[] No.43496488[source]
Some of those cultures that apparently celebrate gay people were also chemically castrating them not that long ago, and also have a lot of locals who still hate gay people and cannot wait to get back to the old ways.

The rise of the far right in Europe and USA might challenge your idea of fixed regional cultures quite soon.

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like_any_other ◴[] No.43500004[source]
That same far right might challenge your idea of the far right. E.g. Germany's AfD is headed by a lesbian in a relationship with a Sri Lankan, and the party enjoys disproportionate support by gay men:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-do-so-many-gay-men-s...

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defrost ◴[] No.43500029[source]
In a world where Ernst Röhm, leader of the SA, the Nazi Party's stormtroopers, was openly gay, and Reich uniforms and Hugo Boss feature heavily in gay iconography ... that would suprise us why?
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like_any_other ◴[] No.43500125[source]
I was replying specifically to a post that equated the far right with anti-gay views. Ask them.
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1. defrost ◴[] No.43500216[source]
Fair point, I was chaining in general and not specifically having a go at yourself.

People are complicated and there's no shortage of head scratching examples of seemingly mismatched fellow travellers.