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arghwhat ◴[] No.43493412[source]
Black Swan was a big deal, but this article massively overstates the average Dane's faith in the system. The welfare state is certainly not reverred as a religion, and the current state of it is always a hot discussion topic with pulls in either direction.

Unlike what this article suggests, tax fraud is also relatively common (one would have to be rather daft to assume that a country with such absurdly high taxation did not have tax evasion as a key pastime - although probably not as aggressively as in places like the US), and while heavily frowned upon certainly not seen as the highest form of crime as this article suggests. Well, maybe if you ask the tax agency and the political parties pushing for ever more welfare, both of which push heavily for a cashless society where all financial transactions are fully trackable by them, but I think most would place tax evasion quite far down on the list of significant crimes.

I would instead say that the average Dane is carefree about these issues, not because they are trusting or believe their system is worth religious following, but because the issues experienced there feels quite minor compared to what seems to happen elsewhere in the world. When your concept of a significant natural disaster is a flooded basement, you tend to not worry that much about what happens locally.

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matwood ◴[] No.43494860[source]
> one would have to be rather daft to assume that a country with such absurdly high taxation did not have tax evasion as a key pastime - although probably not as aggressively as in places like the US

I think there is a distinction between avoidance (typically considered legal) and evasion (fraud and illegal). Everyone should practice avoidance, using the system as designed. IME, evasion is much higher in countries with say a VAT than the US. Paying cash for transactions, even rather large ones, is common in order to avoid 10-20%+ VAT.

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1. milesrout ◴[] No.43496714[source]
There are three categories: tax minimisation (structuring legitimately to minimise tax), tax avoidance (structuring legitimately but artificially to avoid taxes) and tax evasion (lying to evade tax).

Tax minimisation is fine. Tax avoidance is, in sensible countries, not illegal but ineffective: tax avoidance arrangements are void for tax purposes. Tax evasion is a serious crime.

Avoidance is not using the system as it was designed. It is using the system as it was not intended, creating totally artificial structures just for tax reasons. In a sensible society the taxman can just say "clearly artificial so I will ignore this" and if you disagree, well, see you in court.