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Waymos crash less than human drivers

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wnissen ◴[] No.43487648[source]
Serious crash rates are a hockey stick pattern. 20% of the drivers cause 80% of the crashes, to a rough approximation. For the worst 20% of drivers, the Waymo is almost certainly better already.

Honestly, at this point I am more interested in whether they can operate their service profitably and affordably, because they are clearly nailing the technical side.

For example data from a 100 driver study, see table 2.11, p. 29. https://rosap.ntl.bts.gov/view/dot/37370 Roughly the same number of drivers had 0 or 1 near-crashes as had 13-50+. One of the drivers had 56 near crashes and 4 actual crashes in less than 20K miles! So the average isn't that helpful here.

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pc86 ◴[] No.43493897[source]
> 4 actual crashes in less than 20K miles

Sorry if you're having a car crash every 6 months or less, you shouldn't have a license.

Driving a car is privilege granted to you by your state, and this state is negligent in its protection of everyone else by letting this idiot continue to drive. Sell your car, take the bus, move closer to work, I don't care.

More than 3 at-fault crashes in a year or more than 10 at-fault crashes ever and you should permanently lose your license forever. That seems more than generous enough.

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eightysixfour ◴[] No.43495337[source]
There is already a mechanism for this that the government doesn’t even have to be directly involved in - insurance. At some point you become prohibitively expensive to insure.

However, the government still has to do its part and actually enforce insurance requirements.

My pet hypothesis is that there is a tipping point where the feedback loop between driver safety, ai advancements, and insurance costs will doom manually driven cars faster than most people think.

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1. nomel ◴[] No.43496438[source]
> At some point you become prohibitively expensive to insure.

This would probably just cause more uninsured drivers. For California, that's around 17% [1]!

[1] https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-uninsure...

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2. eightysixfour ◴[] No.43497395[source]
Yes, that’s why I said

> However, the government still has to do its part and actually enforce insurance requirements.