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Waymos crash less than human drivers

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345 points rbanffy | 1 comments | 26 Mar 25 20:57 UTC | HN request time: 1.158s | source
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mjburgess ◴[26 Mar 25 21:19 UTC] No.43487426[source]▶
Waymos choose the routes, right?

The issue with self-driving is (1) how it generalises across novel environments without "highly-available route data" and provider-chosen routes; (2) how failures are correlated across machines.

In safe driving failures are uncorrelated and safety procedures generalise. We do not yet know if, say, using self-driving very widely will lead to conditions in which "in a few incidents" more people are killed in those incidents than were ever hypothetically saved.

Here, without any confidence intervals, we're told we've saved ~70 airbag incidents in 20 mil miles. A bad update to the fleet will easily eclipse that impact.

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thaumasiotes ◴[26 Mar 25 21:23 UTC] No.43487464[source]▶
> The issue with self-driving is (1) how it generalises across novel environments without "highly-available route data" and provider-chosen routes; (2) how failures are correlated across machines.

Why is (1) an issue? Route data never gets worse.

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ceejayoz ◴[26 Mar 25 21:25 UTC] No.43487502[source]▶
> Route data never gets worse.

Construction? Parade? Giant tire-crunching pothole in the middle of the freeway?

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virtue3 ◴[26 Mar 25 21:35 UTC] No.43487623[source]▶
Oddly enough Waymo does a solid job of avoiding those.
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1. Animats ◴[27 Mar 25 05:26 UTC] No.43490608[source]▶
There was a problem in SF with a Waymo not avoiding a parade. Somebody didn't enter the parade in SF MUNI's list of street closures. Nobody was hurt; it was just embarrassing.