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echoangle ◴[] No.43485519[source]
Don’t want to belittle the achievement but they launched it as in „had it launched by the commercial launch provider SpaceX“, not on a self-developed rocket as it sounds like on the first read.
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parsimo2010 ◴[] No.43486503[source]
Very few organizations and even countries can develop both a launch vehicle and a satellite. Botswana has done fine to develop a satellite that integrates onto a rideshare launch. They aren't working with anything close to the headcount or budget of NASA or even the ESA.

Edit (rather than reply and make the comment chain long): It's fine that you read it that way. I figure that if the article were about a launch vehicle then it would have been the rocket's name in the title, and if the article were about the satellite then it would have the satellite's name (BOTSAT-1). If Botswana had developed both an orbital launch vehicle and their first satellite then I'd bet the headline would have been sensational.

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lolinder ◴[] No.43487902[source]
> Edit (rather than reply and make the comment chain long):

Sorry to go meta here, but this is just rude, both to OP and to other readers.

For OP, you're effectively pre-empting what they say with your own counterargument, and even more so you're removing the ability for them to counter your counter. You're essentially using the edit feature to end the conversation and ensure you have the final word.

For other readers, you're introducing confusing non-linear flow.

Just reply. It's not hard, and as you can see below you didn't actually prevent a subthread from forming.

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pc86 ◴[] No.43488077[source]
> Sorry to go meta here, but this is just rude, both to OP and to other readers. ... You're essentially using the edit feature to end the conversation and ensure you have the final word.

I've noticed this more and more, especially on more controversial topics (which this is certainly not).

Adam makes a statement, Betty responds. Adam responds, and Betty edits her initial response and conversation ends, likely because Adam didn't see the edit.

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1. yieldcrv ◴[] No.43490159[source]
It’s because hackernews rate limits users just because someone else downvoted you

So you actually can’t finish the conversation when it has the utility to finish it

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2. alistairSH ◴[] No.43492977[source]
Really? The rate limit must be pretty generous, because I've never hit it, and I've had a few comments downvoted heavily.
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3. pc86 ◴[] No.43493009[source]
Users get rate limited because their account is new, or as you alluded to, they're not productively adding to the conversation (as evidenced by vote ratio at least).

It seems like the system working as designed, to be honest.

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4. yieldcrv ◴[] No.43494566[source]
The threshold gets more sensitive if other users have ever flagged you before and there’s seemingly no way to make the threshold less sensitive without mod intervention

so entire accounts can get brigaded in an opaque system that we never know is updated or not

5. yieldcrv ◴[] No.43494582[source]
its overfitting.

its like how people within the US thinks the system works because we’ve never had a military coup, instead of looking at how the system hasnt worked

6. mrguyorama ◴[] No.43496514[source]
Hi, I've been here almost a decade and have over 10k Karma. I am not allowed to post more than 4ish comments per several hour period.

It is not an automated system. I was punished years after creating my account, and after accumulating strong positive karma. It only took like one flagged comment for the punishment to be put in place, imo it was not a significantly out there comment or set of comments either, and it is now years old and it's pretty obvious these punishments have no automatic expiry or re-evaluating date.

This is despite plenty of other members of the community posting about 10x the amount I was at the time with zero repercussions, and despite the fact that I've gotten only a couple gentle warnings in particularly heated topics, which I demonstrably took to heart.

There is no justice or fairness inherent in HNs systems, and assuming so by default is less than great. The team is tiny, the rules are most likely set in stone from the early 2000s, the tooling is basically just whatever they can cobble together, the rules are purposely opaque, and Dang is a mere mortal full of his own biases and experiences that are impossible to fully prevent from affecting his decisions. I think he puts genuine effort into his work, and despite the occasional complaint I'd give him probably a B+ or better, but there are probably hundreds of HN commentators who were given a punishment, hopefully for good reason but don't take that for granted, literally reformed or just changed over time, and nobody even informed them they were punished or COULD have that punishment removed.

I have not emailed dang to get the punishment lifted because sometimes the limit is helpful to limit how distracted I am at work. Other times it completely prevents me from doing the exact kind of useful and productive conversation that HN insists it wants.