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    The Website Hacker News Is Afraid to Discuss

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    479 points jgruber | 13 comments | 27 Mar 25 00:18 UTC | HN request time: 1.288s | source | bottom
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    TechRemarker ◴[27 Mar 25 00:33 UTC] No.43489148[source]▶
    Would love to hear from HN on why such an otherwise incredible popular site is so often blacklisted or censored vs what is allowed. Why not let users vote instead like other news? Or if truly not being censored bring receipts on what’s happening?
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    1. throwaway_0501 ◴[27 Mar 25 00:43 UTC] No.43489212[source]▶
    It's not being blacklisted or censored (see other comment with link to submissions).

    My suspicion: it's not relevant to the HN audience. DF is opinion pieces (mostly) about Apple. While I'm sure many DF readers use some Apple device(s), I suspect many (most?) DF readers do not care about "inside baseball"[0] for Apple.

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_baseball_(metaphor)

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    2. f30e3dfed1c9 ◴[27 Mar 25 00:49 UTC] No.43489259[source]▶
    This is it for me. I've been using macs since 1985 (!) but I just don't think that blog is very interesting. From what I've seen, you're right that it's mostly Apple "inside baseball" and I just don't care.
    3. Eric_WVGG ◴[27 Mar 25 01:37 UTC] No.43489559[source]▶
    Unlikely. “Rotten in Cupertino” was a bombshell and this forum should have been where the most insightful discussion took place. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43348891
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    4. erickhill ◴[27 Mar 25 01:56 UTC] No.43489672[source]▶
    100%. But if Gruber/Daringfireball are even shown for a split second, there's a kneejerk reaction to flag it before the flagger even often reads it. It's a shame.
    5. detaro ◴[27 Mar 25 01:57 UTC] No.43489675[source]▶
    a "bombshell" for the bubble of Apple-superfans, shocked that their high priest is criticizing Apple, maybe. For the rest of the world?
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    6. jgruber ◴[27 Mar 25 02:24 UTC] No.43489803[source]▶
    How then do you explain DF being #3 from 2007-2021 and #72 from 2021-2025?
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    7. runjake ◴[27 Mar 25 02:33 UTC] No.43489848[source]▶
    Don’t ask them. The only one who can give you a sure answer is @dang .

    My guess is that HN users flag the hell out of DF submissions for whatever reason, and that causes the so-called graylisting. But again only @dang can give you a straight answer.

    If you prefer email, Dan can be reached at hn@ycombinator.com. He seems like a friendly guy.

    8. rchaud ◴[27 Mar 25 13:46 UTC] No.43493614[source]▶
    A 'bombshell' to me would include some original journalism, details we weren't otherwise aware of. I read that article, it is basically an essay about a guy realizing that the pedestal he puts Apple on may need some recalibration, just because their AI product sucks. Apple Maps in 2011 sucked too, the company is not immune to putting out crap.
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    9. jgruber ◴[27 Mar 25 13:48 UTC] No.43493630{3}[source]▶
    What exactly do you think my "tactics" were/are?

    I've only ever submitted one article of my own to Hacker News. This one.

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    10. rchaud ◴[27 Mar 25 13:50 UTC] No.43493650[source]▶
    Have you considered the possibility that the world has changed after 2020, and there's more to discuss re: technology and society than whatever Apple is up to? We've had Covid, meme stocks, Jan 6th, Huawei bans, Ukraine, NFTs, stablecoin collapses, Twitter takeover, AI everything, Chinese EVs, Tiktok ban....this list goes on.
    11. owebmaster ◴[27 Mar 25 13:50 UTC] No.43493655{4}[source]▶
    the content in the blog is yours, no? So people posting things that would cause flame wars from your domain is still your responsibility? At some point people stop engaging to disagree and start to flag. Your karma doesn't reflect the score expected from the blogger behind the top #3 website of HN. This should tell us something.

    Supporting a monopoly like Apple will sure attract a lot of detractors in a forum named "hacker news". The same would happen to Microsoft supporters 20 years ago.

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    12. kemayo ◴[27 Mar 25 16:47 UTC] No.43495437{5}[source]▶
    > Your karma doesn't reflect the score expected from the blogger behind the top #3 website of HN. This should tell us something.

    Karma's a reflection of how much someone uses HN. Glancing at his account, it looks like he has never submitted anything before this article, and almost never comments. That account having low karma doesn't really tell us anything about him, beyond that he's not a HN regular.

    13. xcrunner529 ◴[01 Apr 25 20:29 UTC] No.43550998{3}[source]▶
    As opposed to slop on medium and nautil.us constantly posted here lol. (or wikipedia)