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csomar ◴[] No.43469802[source]
I am just having this problem. Actually getting SPF, DKIM and DMARC right and having a domain with a 0 spam score will still land you in the spam directory. It turns out, you need to have a "reputation"? before your email gets accepted into gmail. My head was spinning as to how that reputation will be built if your email just goes straight to spam.

But sure, Linkedin emails are definitively not spam and their dark-patterns at adding you at n+1 emailing list doesn't get them banned from the big (or any?) provider.

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jeroenhd ◴[] No.43469853[source]
It's easy, you just have to have a regular, decently sized volume of non-spam emails, and suddenly your email stops being marked as spam!

The logic isn't even that bad. SPF and DKIM serve to prove to the email who the sender is. That doesn't mean much if the sender is a spammer. Verifying identity claims is only the first part in checking email for spam, the harder part is checking if that identity is someone you trust.

When you email Outlook or Google, you're better sending more than a few every single day, and the recipient better manually drag those emails from their spam folders to their inbox, or they're all being learned as spam.

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1. pas ◴[] No.43477378[source]
so my personal domain just needs to send newsletters to millions of people, or ... how exactly? what's decent size? how frequently?