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Qwen2.5-VL-32B: Smarter and Lighter

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544 points tosh | 1 comments | 24 Mar 25 18:35 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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simonw ◴[24 Mar 25 18:52 UTC] No.43464227[source]▶
Big day for open source Chinese model releases - DeepSeek-v3-0324 came out today too, an updated version of DeepSeek v3 now under an MIT license (previously it was a custom DeepSeek license). https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/24/deepseek/
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echelon ◴[24 Mar 25 19:20 UTC] No.43464498[source]▶
Pretty soon I won't be using any American models. It'll be a 100% Chinese open source stack.

The foundation model companies are screwed. Only shovel makers (Nvidia, infra companies) and product companies are going to win.

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jsheard ◴[24 Mar 25 19:32 UTC] No.43464607[source]▶
I still don't get where the money for new open source models is going to come from once setting investor dollars on fire is no longer a viable business model. Does anyone seriously expect companies to keep buying and running thousands of ungodly expensive GPUs, plus whatever they spend on human workers to do labelling/tuning, and then giving away the spoils for free, forever?
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ada1981 ◴[24 Mar 25 19:39 UTC] No.43464673[source]▶
Money from the Chinese defense budget?

Everyone using these models undercuts US companies.

Eventually China wins.

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elicksaur ◴[25 Mar 25 01:10 UTC] No.43467134{3}[source]▶
Shoot, didn’t know downloading Llama and running it locally was helping China because I’m not paying Sam Altman money.

Can I send him my bank account info directly? I need to help the cause.

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1. otabdeveloper4 ◴[25 Mar 25 13:48 UTC] No.43471273{4}[source]▶
> Can I send him my bank account info directly?

You can. Ask your friendly local IRS.