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api ◴[] No.43470792[source]
I'm having trouble thinking of even historical examples of a single person burning this much goodwill.

It makes me really sad when I think about it. We needed, and still need, the person Elon Musk was at least pretending to be when he founded SpaceX.

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1. malfist ◴[] No.43470817[source]
The French monarchy is probably a good comparison
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2. dartos ◴[] No.43470833[source]
Did they have goodwill to begin with?
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3. rsynnott ◴[] No.43470877[source]
No, not particularly. Aung San Suu Kyi, possibly? Went from martyr to democracy to defending genocide (and has since been detained by another military coup, but is getting somewhat less sympathy this time round).
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4. ZeroGravitas ◴[] No.43471045[source]
Well they had a lot of people on the payroll claiming they were literally chosen by God so they generated a similar amount of positive PR. There's suckers born every century.
5. ajb ◴[] No.43471080{3}[source]
It's difficult for people to comprehend in hindsight, but monarchies in Europe had a quasi-religious hold on the population. So not precisely good will, but definitely a cachet that can be burned down.
6. hnbad ◴[] No.43471100[source]
You're probably alluding to Marie Antoinette.

While her infamous quote "let them eat cake" seems to be falsely attributed to her and many stories about her seem to have been fabrications, she did contribute to the downfall of the French monarchy through her high personal expenses and hardline stance against reforms. I'm not sure her role in the collapse of the monarchy can be compared to Elon Musk's role in tanking Tesla though - views of the monarchy were and would have been unfavorable without her already and her behavior wasn't much of a deviation from before, just made more significant because of the poor financial state of France at the time.

7. cyberjerkXX ◴[] No.43471215[source]
The French monarchy also bankrupted France with lavish spending, and financing the American Revolution. France then had a massive drought and couldn't pay back their debts so they increased taxation across the board and caused the French Revolution...which then caused Napoleon to step in and kill it...so-lets pay off our debt so we can afford our social systems.