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jeroenhd ◴[] No.43469827[source]
For me, as someone with their own mail server, these technologies mostly serve to inform me that Russian IP addresses are still trying to send email in the name of my domain for some stupid reason.

It makes sense that people whose business is sending email know how to set up email correctly. I'm mostly surprised at how many legitimate sysadmins struggle with getting the basics correct. Surely those dozens of DMARC emails you get that your sendgrid email has been refused because of a bad SPF signature should set in motion some kind of plan to ask if maybe marketing is using them legitimately?

Automated signatures are of limited value but I rarely see rejections based on SPF and DKIM that are a mistake. Things are probably worse for big organizations but as a small email server, technical rejections are usually the right call. The only exception is mailing lists, but the dozens of people who still use those can usually figure out how to add an exception for them.

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1. csomar ◴[] No.43470195[source]
> that Russian IP addresses are still trying to send email in the name of my domain for some stupid reason

You can set your policy to reject, that will deter the Russians from using your domain.

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2. jeroenhd ◴[] No.43470393[source]
I used to have my policy set to reject, but then I found out some part of an Enterprise Outlook mail filtering chain was rewriting the mail I sent before checking the DKIM signature. I can't fix stupid, especially for other parties, so I changed the policy to quarantine instead.

I doubt Russian spammers will care about the difference to be honest. If they accept that their email will be delivered to spam folders, why would they care that the email gets silently dropped? In neither case anyone is going to fall for them.

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3. csomar ◴[] No.43470732[source]
Because Spam has a non-zero CTR while rejected mail CTR is exactly 0.