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hmottestad ◴[] No.43464637[source]
Just don’t ask it about the tiananmen square massacre or you’ll get a security warning. Even if you rephrase it.

It’ll happily talk about Bloody Sunday.

Probably a great model, but it worries me that it has such restrictions.

Sure OpenAI also has lots of restrictions, but this feels more like straight up censorship since it’ll happily go on about bad things the governments of the west have done.

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generalizations ◴[] No.43464653[source]
Nah, it's great for things that Western models are censored on. The True Hacker will keep an Eastern and Western model available, depending on what they need information on.
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theturtletalks ◴[] No.43464802[source]
Wouldn’t they just run R1 locally and not have any censorship at all? The model isn’t censored at its core, it’s censored through the system prompt. Perplexity and Huggingface have their own versions of R1 that is not censored.
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hmottestad ◴[] No.43464929{3}[source]
I tried R1 through Kagi and it’s similarly censored. Even the distill of llama running on Groq is censored.
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theturtletalks ◴[] No.43465527{4}[source]
Kagi may be using the official DeepSeek API and not hosting the model itself. There is work being done to make it completely uncensored:

https://github.com/huggingface/open-r1

https://ollama.com/huihui_ai/deepseek-r1-abliterated

I was mistaken though, it is more than just a system prompt causing the censorship.

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1. hmottestad ◴[] No.43469442{5}[source]
Kagi uses R1 through Fireworks.ai, Together.ai and Groq.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/llms-privacy.html