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Qwen2.5-VL-32B: Smarter and Lighter

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simonw ◴[24 Mar 25 18:52 UTC] No.43464227[source]▶
Big day for open source Chinese model releases - DeepSeek-v3-0324 came out today too, an updated version of DeepSeek v3 now under an MIT license (previously it was a custom DeepSeek license). https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/24/deepseek/
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chaosprint ◴[24 Mar 25 19:06 UTC] No.43464375[source]▶
it seems that this free version "may use your prompts and completions to train new models"

https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324:free

do you think this needs attention?

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wgd ◴[24 Mar 25 19:08 UTC] No.43464399[source]▶
That's typical of the free options on OpenRouter, if you don't want your inputs used for training you use the paid one: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324
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overfeed ◴[24 Mar 25 22:58 UTC] No.43466292[source]▶
Is OpenRouter planning on distilling models off the prompts and responses from frontier models? That's smart - a little gross - but smart.
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1. numlocked ◴[24 Mar 25 23:09 UTC] No.43466375[source]▶
COO of OpenRouter here. We are simply stating the WE can’t vouch for the behavior of the upstream provider’s retention and training policy. We don’t save your prompt data, regardless of the model you use, unless you explicitly opt-in to logging (in exchange for a 1% inference discount).
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2. simonw ◴[24 Mar 25 23:24 UTC] No.43466481[source]▶
That 1% discount feels a bit cheap to me - if it was a 25% or 50% discount I would be much more likely to sign up for it.
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3. numlocked ◴[24 Mar 25 23:32 UTC] No.43466533[source]▶
We don’t particularly want our customers’ data :)
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4. overfeed ◴[24 Mar 25 23:51 UTC] No.43466652[source]▶
I'm glad to hear you are not hoovering up this data for your own purposes.
5. oofbaroomf ◴[25 Mar 25 03:14 UTC] No.43467799{3}[source]▶
Yeah, but Openrouter has a 5% surcharge anyway.
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6. YetAnotherNick ◴[25 Mar 25 04:49 UTC] No.43468205{4}[source]▶
Better way to state is 20% of surcharge then :)
7. vintermann ◴[25 Mar 25 09:26 UTC] No.43469383{3}[source]▶
You clearly want it a little if you give a discount for it?