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snapcaster ◴[] No.43411015[source]
This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power
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blindriver ◴[] No.43411158[source]
Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you going. He answered “Canada” and they detained him and pulled apart his car looking for drugs. He was detained for hours until they let him go.
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ssijak ◴[] No.43411227[source]
"Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport"

What is exactly wrong here? They checked your passport and went on their way, that is how it works.

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blindriver ◴[] No.43411274[source]
Nothing wrong. The previous poster claimed that the US Border patrol was excessively scary but my point is this happens everywhere around the world.
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freehorse ◴[] No.43411443[source]
The part OP is scared of and points to is some border guard revoking your visa, which probably implies you losing your job and having to leave the country you live in. This is scary because it is a very big, bad outcome to be totally in the authority of a random border guard to decide. Waking out by guards and dogs barking on a train is scary in its own right the moment it happens, but we are talking about totally different things whose only intersection is "border guards" and the emotional category of "scared".
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blindriver[dead post] ◴[] No.43411563[source]
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snapcaster ◴[] No.43412465[source]
It's not nonsense, people are following all the rules and then having some thug with no ability or willingness to understand the situation revoke their visa. This can and will ruin lives I don't see how you're not seeing the problem here
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blindriver[dead post] ◴[] No.43412663[source]
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freehorse ◴[] No.43413440[source]
It is you that actually has to answer on which rules were broken and which countries do the same. Tbf asking questions to be answered by non-examples is disingenuous. If your argument (2) is that others do it, then you should provide concrete examples similar to the original article. If your argument (1) is that they did not follow some rules, you should either provide specific rules that the author did not follow, or at very least plausible reasons for why they are lying in the article about following all the rules.
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blindriver ◴[] No.43413758[source]
She tried to enter the country illegally and illegally apply for a work visa.

1) She co-founded a hemp drink company in California as a Canadian.

"Jasmine Mooney, an actor who is also co-founder of the beverage brand Holy! Water, was detained on 3 March in San Diego, California."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/canadian-act...

2) She applied for a TN visa that was sponsored by her own company, which is illegal.

"I was granted my trade Nafta work visa, which allows Canadian and Mexican citizens to work in the US in specific professional occupations, on my second attempt."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-det...

3) She self-sponsored her own TN visa through her company that she co-founded and this is illegal.

Visa Sponsorship Required

Contrary to popular belief, the TN visa classification does require an employer to “sponsor” an individual for TN visa work status.

The TN visa classification, unlike e.g. the E-2 visa, does not permit self-sponsorship.

https://www.bdzlaw.com/nafta-tn-blog/tn-visa-employer-obliga...

4) She was trying to enter the US illegally with an illegal work visa and even though the first TN was granted, she was likely detained because of the illegal nature of her TN visa application and the multiple attempts she made.

Everything ICE and CBP did was lawful.

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ethbr1 ◴[] No.43414784[source]
Did you look up Section 214.6(b) [0] before you posted?

Curious how you determined

>> A professional will be deemed to be self-employed if he or she will be rendering services to a corporation or entity of which the professional is the sole or controlling shareholder or owner.

Do you have a link to the ownership structure of Holy! Water?

[0] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2012-title8-vol1/pdf...

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blindriver ◴[] No.43415306[source]
https://www.instagram.com/enjoyholywater/reel/C-3VLghyiHy/?l...
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ethbr1 ◴[] No.43424677[source]
I must have missed the ownership table in that video.

How much of the company does she own?

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blindriver ◴[] No.43426521{3}[source]
She has publicly stated she is a cofounder of the company. In order to qualify for the TN visa there has to be a legitimate employer-employee relationship, and as cofounder, that makes that impossible. At the very least this makes her subject to detainment for possible immigration fraud.
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dragonwriter ◴[] No.43426602{4}[source]
Founders/cofounders are generally legally and legitimately employees of the firms they were involved in founding.

Yes, if she was the sole or controlling owner, this would be an issue. But “cofounder” and “sole owner” are... not the same thing.

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1. blindriver ◴[] No.43430056{5}[source]
This is well established. You can argue all you want but you're wrong.