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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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1009 points n1b0m | 2 comments | 19 Mar 25 11:21 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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BrandoElFollito ◴[19 Mar 25 12:37 UTC] No.43411050[source]▶
I traveled to the US (from my country -France- and many others) for 12 years. About a trip every month. The last time was 10 years ago.

I never had any problems (outside the horrible behaviour of border officers who show you that you are not welcome). I was stopped once by a policeman when I did an illegal car maneuver (which is tolerated in France), and when he realized I was a tourist with family, he just said, "Be careful, have a nice trip."

Today I am seriously considering never going to the US anymore because it looks like it is not a good destination anymore. I may be wrong though, I hope.

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1. rayiner ◴[20 Mar 25 03:12 UTC] No.43419600[source]▶
The U.S. is great. It's probably not apparent from Europe how crazy the situation got in the U.S. The number of illegal border crossings on the EU in 2023 was about 380,000: https://www.statista.com/statistics/454775/number-of-illegal.... The last few years, we have been having 150,000-300,000 per month: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jp4xqx2z3o. And the EU has a much bigger population (330 million versus 450 million).

In 2017, Pew estimated that the EU had peaked around 5 million illegal immigrants: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/11/13/europes-unauth....

IN 2018, a Yale study estimated the U.S. had around 22 million illegal immigrants: https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twic....

France during the same period was estimated to have 300-400k illegal immigrants: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/11/13/four-co....

We have 10 times as many illegal immigrants per capita as France does.

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2. account42 ◴[20 Mar 25 10:22 UTC] No.43421441[source]▶
I'd be careful comparing statistics like this between jurisdictions. What might be counted as a "illegal immigrant" is likely different between the EU and US.