I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

In a blink of an eye Americans went from "the government is out there to oppress you" to "if the government says the undisclosed people it snatches from the streets and deports are criminals, it must be true".

> There is a sense that the new American administration is more appropriately focused on oppressing criminals and people occupying the country illegally, which may account for more acceptance and a slight uptick in trust

That’s not an interesting insight IMO.

All governments claim some degree of criminality or immorality of the people they are oppressing.

After all, didn’t this administration pardon people who 50% of the country believe were actively trying to overthrow the government?

> That’s not an interesting insight IMO.

I think it accurately explains the mood shift of the portion of the public the OP was originally criticizing for apparent hypocrisy. The same portion of the public who think the prosecutions of the Jan 6 protestors as wildly overzealous, at best.

The new administration has no regards for law. They are breaking multiple laws. This isn't how you get things done.

That's really irrelevant to the point being discussed. I was just trying to give some context to the apparent hypocrisy the OP had identified, without adding my own opinion about it.

> That's really irrelevant to the point being discussed.

The point is following the law. What point do you think it's being discussed?

The point that started my original response. Explaining a new, apparently hypocritical, propensity to trust such government actions. Whether any of us agree with it or not, is irrelevant to the explanation of why it has happened.

> The point that started my original response.

The original response stated the following:

> The new administration has no regards for law. They are breaking multiple laws. This isn't how you get things done.

Your personal perception of hypocrisy is immaterial. OP's point is that this sort of policy is being supported bY rampant abuse and violations of the law and constitution.

If your original argument is how you think something violates the law, how come your high regard for lawlessness disappears as soon as you discuss abusing minorities?

You are talking about uptick in trust due to administration taking steps against illegal immigrants.

How is anyone supposed trust this administration when they constantly lie and break the laws themselves? How is my comment not relevant?

Not that I agree with illegal immigration, however, I want EVERYONE to respect the laws.

You joined the conversation too late. Go up one parent level and see that the ONLY thing I was talking about, was explaining the apparent hypocrisy the OP had identified. The rest of this thread has been unnecessary and irrelevant objections to that point.

Except almost none of these cases are given due process, so we're just meant to believe them. It's trivial to say people are terrorists or gang members or whatever, doing it in court is hard. That's why they don't.

Us-america are simply to ignorant to see that, they parrot what their sweet sweet propaganda say, it's just a shift from whoever is on power

True, but they are so individualist that they don't give a f*ck to what happens to their neighbors, they are the first type to report anyone to the government

>How is anyone supposed trust this administration when they constantly lie and break the laws themselves?

Try to explain that to anyone racist, ignorant or fearful of immigrants and you going to understand the point of the comment

It's not necessarily an american thing. People will always have biased towards whatever fits their pre-conceived notions, and we seem to be in a post-truth society.

Ironically, it's not focused a lot more on feelz, no realz. People don't seem to want to remember that reality is in fact, often disappointing.

So, no bad nor immoral tactics? Only bad targets?