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1. Gigachad ◴[] No.43411054[source]
Governments need to start putting out travel warnings on the US. It’s becoming an increasingly dangerous place to visit.
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2. Euphorbium ◴[] No.43411130[source]
And remove visa free travel for americans.
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3. apwell23 ◴[] No.43411189[source]
would make european tourist spots so much clamer and nicer
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4. danmaz74 ◴[] No.43411247[source]
What would that help? Asking as a EU citizen.
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5. ben_w ◴[] No.43411360[source]
They are.

Germany:

"""Innenpolitische Lage

Amerikanische Großstädte sind landesweit mit einem Anstieg der Gewaltkriminalität konfrontiert. Es besteht auch weiterhin eine erhöhte Gefahr politisch motivierter Gewalt."""

Translation:

"""Domestic political situation

Major American cities are facing an increase in violent crime nationwide. There is still an increased risk of politically motivated violence."""

- https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/reiseundsicherheit/usaver...

6. briandear ◴[] No.43411362{3}[source]
https://fpa.org/british-and-french-vie-for-worst-tourists-ti...
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7. lenerdenator ◴[] No.43411480{3}[source]
... and that sort of attitude towards Americans is part of why Trump is able to play Europeans as a ambivalent-at-best bunch.
8. rocqua ◴[] No.43411498{3}[source]
Quid pro quo. Hurt the current administration's popularity by inconveniencing US citizens. And in general, Visa free travel is a mutually beneficial deal. If the US stops giving the EU benefits, why shouldn't the EU reciprocate.

Personally, I get it but don't support it. I still appreciate my American brethren, just not their administration. We should hit back at the establishment, not the population. Big point there is reducing weapons import, and adding export tarrifs on F35 parts, perhaps ASML machines aswell.

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9. greatpatton ◴[] No.43411718{4}[source]
The article is rather funny as French are supposedly "terrible at foreign languages", but try to find a Briton that can speak anything else than English, it's like finding a needle in a haystack.
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10. mdp2021 ◴[] No.43411739{4}[source]
> Quid pro quo ... inconveniencing

Hitting the innocent is downright criminal.

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11. bloak ◴[] No.43412060{5}[source]
People say that, but do we have any proper data, preferably on assessed language knowledge rather than claimed language knowledge?

There's some crap going on in France that English is specified as a requirement for many jobs even when it quite obviously isn't needed. So people lie and nobody cares. On the other hand, it seems to me that people in England are overly modest about their language abilities. I think if you handed out written instructions in French or German on how to win £1000 then a lot of people who wouldn't normally claim to know any foreign languages would successfully follow the instructions.

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12. anthomtb ◴[] No.43413715[source]
My in-laws only obtained passports in their late 60's. They took one trip to Canada, which was their only international trip, ever. My FIL is quite proud of having never seen the Pacific Ocean. They are also 3-time Trump voters. If they survive the next 3.5 years while rejection of the constitution continues, will likely be 4-time Trump voters.

These are the types of people who 1) support the policies from TFA and 2) will not notice the loss of visa-free travel.

Perhaps your idea isn't to punish the Trump voters, but to galvanize the non-Trump voters?

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14. refurb ◴[] No.43413743[source]
They should put travel warnings on every country then.

The woman in question tried to self-sponsor a TN visa after being denied earlier at the Canadian border. I can understand why USCBP starts to think “this woman is trying to commit fraud” not “innocent mistake”.

I know most countries would detain and deport people attempting to commit immigration fraud.

Not sure why people should hold the US to a higher standard than other countries.

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15. jkrshnmenon ◴[] No.43414487[source]
Most countries don't have for profit prisons or detention centers.
16. ben_w ◴[] No.43414502{6}[source]
It's hard for me to be exactly confident when comparing my 25-year-old GCSE grade C (or was it D?) in French to the current numerical grading system, but I think it's it's somewhere around the peaks of these graphs: https://ffteducationdatalab.org.uk/2024/04/languages-are-sti...

My grasp of French is so monumentally bad, that last time I tried to say "I can't speak French" in French, the French woman next to me didn't understand because I said it wrong.

My German is coming along OK, but only because I've been living in Berlin since late 2018.

17. mdp2021 ◴[] No.43415569{5}[source]
So, sniper, any arguments? Now you look as if I denounced a vile perspective and some responded with a vile action.
18. Vilian ◴[] No.43421345[source]
Most country are 't fascists wanna be
19. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.43421786{5}[source]
By that logic, couttries shouldn't counter tarriff the U.S. and take it on the chin.

Sadly the innocent are always the victims under leadership decisions. The method here involves angering them and hopefully overhtrowing the leaders who caused this. we'll see how it goes here.

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20. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.43421793[source]
Not even higher standard. Just a standard would be a good start for the US.
21. mdp2021 ◴[] No.43423047{6}[source]
> Sadly the innocent are always the victims under leadership decisions

What you have stated is that, following your view, "people should impale leaders".

> angering them and hopefully overhtrowing the leaders

And that you would pester John to turn him against Jack. What should happen instead is that John will rightfully react against you (possibly both of you), with justification.

It is very basic lucid plain logic.