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I'm Peter Roberts, immigration attorney who does work for YC and startups. AMA

300 points proberts | 2 comments | 14 Mar 25 14:39 UTC | HN request time: 0.452s | source

I'll be here for the next 6 hours. As usual, there are countless possible topics and I'll be guided by whatever you're concerned with but as much as possible I'd like to focus on the recent changes and potential changes in U.S. immigration law, policy, and practice. Please remember that I am limited in providing legal advice on specific cases for obvious liability reasons because I won't have access to all the facts. Please stick to a factual discussion in your questions and comments and I'll try to do the same in my responses. Thank you!
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abxyz ◴[14 Mar 25 16:40 UTC] No.43364351[source]▶
Possibly too broad of a question but any insight you can provide on the definition of "work" in the context of being a digital nomad in the U.S. would be helpful. For example, if I am a European citizen who works for a European company and enters the U.S. on a B-2 for a 2 week vacation, is it reasonable to interpret the prohibition on "work" as meaning I am not allowed to participate in the U.S. labor market but does not prohibit taking a zoom call with my team back in Europe? The common sense application of immigration law is that it's not work for immigration purposes but I'm curious if you have a more nuanced take and/or any insight.

According to "International Digital Nomads: Immigration Law Options In The United States Abroad" published in The Georgetown Law Journal[1] some jurisdictions have specifically said that it is not work which is what I'm leaning on for my current (optimistic?) view.

"Directors of the CBP office in South Florida, a leading winter locale for visiting “snow birds,” recognize that “[w]orking remotely from the US for a foreign employer, by itself, is not a violation of B visitor status” so long as “the work is incidental to the primary purpose of the trip,” which is a permissible visit."

[1] https://www.law.georgetown.edu/immigration-law-journal/wp-co...

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1. proberts ◴[14 Mar 25 18:30 UTC] No.43365672[source]▶
The last paragraph is correct and well said; as long as the trip is "brief" (that is, you haven't effectively moved to the U.S.) and your work-related activities for your European company are incidental to the primary purpose (that is, your primary purpose is not to somehow work for your European company), then you should be fine. Where digital nomads run into problems is when they're spending a lot of time in the U.S. and effectively have moved to the U.S. as a visitor.
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2. YZF ◴[14 Mar 25 22:01 UTC] No.43367740[source]▶
That's interesting. I would have thought that any work, incidental or not, would be a violation of the visa. I've heard of people being harassed for e.g. doing work on their vacation property (e.g. Canadians owning US property) while they were vacationing even when it's something small/minor.