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Hey! I run a B2C SaaS and I use Stripe for all of my sales (subscriptions).

I am looking to learn how others handle their VAT / Sales Tax filing.

I know that the standard answer would be to use Paddle / LemonSqueezy / Polar.sh, but I already have a lot of subscribers on Stripe which makes quick migration non-trivial.

I am especially looking for some reliable accounting companies / accountants that can register and file Sales Tax across US, UK, Canada, Australia, etc. (It does not have to be a global solution).

It's my understanding that solutions like Stripe Tax, Alavara, Quaderno, etc. only help collect the necessary data (which I consider the easier part, at least for digital goods), but do not handle the registration & filing (though I've learned that Quaderno will support filing Sales Tax in the US on your behalf soon).

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Some jurisdictions are relatively easy to handle (for example, one can handle whole EU by uploading a simple CSV [1] once a quarter and the CSV is easy to generate from Stripe's records).

But unfortunately there are tons of others that are much more complicated and scattered -- for example, due to the economic nexus laws in the US, I now have to file Sales Tax in each individual state where I am over the threshold (and many states have thresholds in low hundreds of transactions, so it's not hard to reach).

[1]: https://www.elster.de/bportal/helpGlobal?themaGlobal=osseust_import

[2]: If you do not feel comfortable commenting here, you can also reach out at z2qmk@pekoi.com (temporary email)

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jongjong ◴[] No.43338472[source]
One of the most horrible aspect of the tax system is that individuals are held responsible for ensuring that they calculate and pay the correct amounts. It's kind of messed up that not only we have to pay tax, but the government doesn't even have the responsibility of telling us how much we owe it or what specific work which it did is covered by the payment.

Every other entity on this planet who wants to obtain money from another entity needs to tell them exactly how much is owed and exactly what goods and services are covered by that payment.

But the government not only doesn't have to report what work it did to warrant the payment, it doesn't even need to tell us the specific amount which we owe it; it's on us to figure that out... Figuring that out is complex and sometimes expensive too; many people can't afford. The gig economy is creating complex tax situations even for poor people. If we calculate incorrectly, then we suffer consequences. It's oppressive.

I know some people will read this and think I'm off on a wild tangent... But my friend, I'm actually addressing the core of the issue here. It's you who is on a wild tangent addressing superficial edge cases. The superficial cases aren't worth discussing; VAT, GST, CGT, income Tax and all other acronyms... Just don't participate in this system. Sell your business, change countries, go on unemployment benefits or whatever until this issue is fixed. How can a rational person operate in this environment? I can't believe some people work for fun. It's the most rigged, boring game ever.

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rglover ◴[] No.43339328[source]
You're not on a tangent at all, you're 100% correct.

It's shameful (in the most absolute sense of the term) that an entire class of people who contribute nothing to the world get to dictate—at the barrel of a gun or threat of imprisonment no less—that we owe them money that they then go and spend carelessly and without accountability (and this is independent of political beliefs—every single politician and bureaucrat is guilty). It's made even worse that they can't be bothered to make it easy to pay them (which is in their best interest). They exist solely to waste time and give otherwise unskilled people something to do.

I sincerely hope that the younger generations see all of this for what it is and aggressively work to remove it. "Oppressive" is exactly the right term. It hurts the prosperity of the majority in favor of a helpless minority (and no, I don't mean the people who actually need our help like the disabled—I explicitly mean government employees).

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nocoiner ◴[] No.43339628[source]
Love how the person who did a “AI-powered code snippets manager and generator and … Mod CSS framework” just casually dismisses millions of people around the globe who ensure safe drinking water, distribution of vaccines, maintenance of nuclear warheads, provision of public health, etc., et fucking cetera, as a class of people who “contribute nothing to the world.”

Very cool - good luck with Mod. Can’t wait until it changes my life as much as living in a functional, stable society (well, at least until a couple months ago, in my case, lol).

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1. rglover ◴[] No.43339707[source]
You're cherry picking what I've worked on. I've also built a full-stack JavaScript framework that's a far better solution than the current competition and can (if utilized) solve a lot of the issues with software we see today.

To your point, all of the problems you outline are either created/exacerbated by government or would be better handled by private industry.

That you reacted emotionally to my comment means I'm far closer to the truth than you might be willing to admit.