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Waterluvian ◴[] No.43309624[source]
I think this from French senator Claude Malhuret sums it up:

    This is a tragedy for the free world, but it’s first and foremost a tragedy for the United States. [President Donald] Trump’s message is that being his ally serves no purpose, because he will not defend you, he will impose more tariffs on you than on his enemies, and he will threaten to seize your territories, while supporting the dictators who invade you.
I’ve thought for a while now that the U.S. has spent a long time building up subjective resources in goodwill, trust, reliability, etc. (you can certainly bicker about the details here). But with Trump, they’re cashing in on all of that. They’re selling the laptops and office chairs (sometimes quite literally) as a business strategy.

I think there’s a fatal misconception among many Americans about where their prosperity comes from. They’re not special or exceptionally capable by any means. It comes from wielding tremendous economic and military power gently, preferring cooperation over conquest.

My concern is that the consequences of the current strategy are too far into the future to act as a sufficient deterrent. It’ll feel like it actually works for a time. But then eventually everyone hates you and adapts to exclude you.

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rocqua ◴[] No.43310451[source]
Does the US have total control? They sure have wide influence, but influence is different from control. The power to take something diminishes when you use it.
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fosk ◴[] No.43310506[source]
Yes. When the rubber meets the road, they have total control because what is anybody going to do about it?
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jajko ◴[] No.43311337[source]
You would be surprised what 96% of the mankind can do to a perceived bully. Just keep doing what you're doing
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1. fosk ◴[] No.43311476{3}[source]
Europe is both financially bankrupt and incompetent, with poor governance continuously hindered by the ambition of each country within the “union”. It will take decades at best for the EU to be competitive, assuming it won’t disintegrate before which is also a very real outcome.

And I say this as an European.

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2. rocqua ◴[] No.43312391[source]
So, as a European, what would you want to see happen? Do whatever we can to appease Trump, living as a subject, all because resistance is futile?

Don't overestimate the US military industrial complex. Their biggest skill is lobbying, and selling massively expensive 'super weapons' that are too expensive to use.