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I have a domain that is not live. As expected, loading the domain returns: Error 1016.

However...I have a subdomain with a not obvious name, like: userfileupload.sampledomain.com

This subdomain IS LIVE but has NOT been publicized/posted anywhere. It's a custom URL for authenticated users to upload media with presigned url to my Cloudflare r2 bucket.

I am using CloudFlare for my DNS.

How did the internet find my subdomain? Some sample user agents are: "Expanse, a Palo Alto Networks company, searches across the global IPv4 space multiple times per day to identify customers' presences on the Internet. If you would like to be excluded from our scans, please send IP addresses/domains to: scaninfo@paloaltonetworks.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_7; en-us) AppleWebKit/534.20.8 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1 Safari/534.20.8", "Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; Android 9; Redmi Note 5 Pro) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/76.0.3809.89 Mobile Safari/537.36",

The bots are GET requests which are failing, as designed, but I'm wondering how the bots even knew the subdomain existed?!

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vince14 ◴[] No.43286319[source]
I'm having the same issue.

https://securitytrails.com/ also had my "secret" staging subdomain.

I made a catch-all certificate, so the subdomain didn't show up in CT logs.

It's still a secret to me how my subdomain ended up in their database.

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1. arccy ◴[] No.43286394[source]
maybe your server responded to a plain ip addressed request with the real name...
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2. averageRoyalty ◴[] No.43287546[source]
Host header is a request header, not a response one, isn't it?
3. fc417fc802 ◴[] No.43288223[source]
He said he used a wildcard cert though. So what part of the response would contain the subdomain in that case?